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Hi All -

I responded to James directly via Speaker Support with this info, but I 
think it's good guidance in general to add to the conversation. 
Basically, I'd recommend one of these three paths in the event you think 
the pitch is too vendor specific:

* You can reach out to these presenters and tell them that you feel 
their presentation is too product focused. Ask them to reshape the 
abstract. If you use this button 
(https://www.screencast.com/t/YH6NxONnC) to email the speakers, Speaker 
Support will be automatically cc'd.
* You could suggest that they combine their presentation with another 
talk to form a panel, which would have the effect of de-productizing it.
* As Track Chairs, you have the option of not selecting the presentation 
for your track.

My suggestion would be to handle this at the Track Chair level as it's 
ultimately up to you all what goes in the track. However, if you feel 
that this warrants further intervention by the Foundation, I'll be happy 
to reach out to them on your behalf.

Thank you,
Jimmy McArthur

> Deepak Gupta <mailto:deepak.gupta at nectechnologies.in>
> February 13, 2017 at 9:00 PM
>
> +1,
>
> Having compatibility plugin supporting spirit of OSS so it is welcome 
> .. So talk should have topic of “Common interest”  and at end mention 
> add on by vendors ..
>
> Deepak
>
> *From:*Ferry, Courtney (Contractor) [mailto:Courtney_Ferry at comcast.com]
> *Sent:* 13 February 2017 23:15
> *To:* Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org>; Ruben D. Orduz 
> <rubenoz at gmail.com>; SaintRossy, James <James_SaintRossy at comcast.com>
> *Cc:* openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific 
> Presentations?
>
> Agreed on sales pitches passed off as presentations being a bad thing 
> – I’ve walked out on a few.
>
> I have attended presentations from vendors that were good, however, 
> when the sales pitch was kept to the last 5 minutes of the talk.  The 
> ones that worked for me were given by vendors that provided a 
> supported version of an OpenStack project and gave a talk or lab on 
> that project.  If they keep the bulk of the presentation to the open 
> source technology, then give their product a plug at the end, I think 
> it’s cool.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Courtney
>
> *From: *Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org <mailto:mark at openstack.org>>
> *Date: *Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:25 PM
> *To: *"Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com <mailto:rubenoz at gmail.com>>, 
> "SaintRossy, James" <James_SaintRossy at cable.comcast.com 
> <mailto:James_SaintRossy at cable.comcast.com>>
> *Cc: *"openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org 
> <mailto:openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>" 
> <openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org 
> <mailto:openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific 
> Presentations?
>
> I'm my opinion, straight up sales pitches are bad.
>
> That said, if a particular technology is widely adopted as part of 
> Openstack clouds out in the world (like a plug in), I could see how an 
> expert on the technology could provide value for attendees by talking 
> about it at the summit, even if that technology is closed source. 
> People who'd never consider a closed source plug in would simply not 
> attend that session.
>
> So I guess I'd say it's not black and white, more about whether 
> there's a significant audience for the topic and if the speaker has 
> the expertise to convey it.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> On February 13, 2017 10:48:21 AM "Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rubenoz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
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> Ferry, Courtney (Contractor) <mailto:Courtney_Ferry at comcast.com>
> February 13, 2017 at 11:44 AM
>
> Agreed on sales pitches passed off as presentations being a bad thing 
> – I’ve walked out on a few.
>
> I have attended presentations from vendors that were good, however, 
> when the sales pitch was kept to the last 5 minutes of the talk.  The 
> ones that worked for me were given by vendors that provided a 
> supported version of an OpenStack project and gave a talk or lab on 
> that project.  If they keep the bulk of the presentation to the open 
> source technology, then give their product a plug at the end, I think 
> it’s cool.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Courtney
>
> *From: *Mark Collier <mark at openstack.org>
> *Date: *Monday, February 13, 2017 at 12:25 PM
> *To: *"Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com>, "SaintRossy, James" 
> <James_SaintRossy at cable.comcast.com>
> *Cc: *"openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org" 
> <openstack-track-chairs at lists.openstack.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Openstack-track-chairs] Guidance on Vendor Specific 
> Presentations?
>
> I'm my opinion, straight up sales pitches are bad.
>
> That said, if a particular technology is widely adopted as part of 
> Openstack clouds out in the world (like a plug in), I could see how an 
> expert on the technology could provide value for attendees by talking 
> about it at the summit, even if that technology is closed source. 
> People who'd never consider a closed source plug in would simply not 
> attend that session.
>
> So I guess I'd say it's not black and white, more about whether 
> there's a significant audience for the topic and if the speaker has 
> the expertise to convey it.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> On February 13, 2017 10:48:21 AM "Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
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> Mark Collier <mailto:mark at openstack.org>
> February 13, 2017 at 11:25 AM
>
> I'm my opinion, straight up sales pitches are bad.
>
> That said, if a particular technology is widely adopted as part of 
> Openstack clouds out in the world (like a plug in), I could see how an 
> expert on the technology could provide value for attendees by talking 
> about it at the summit, even if that technology is closed source. 
> People who'd never consider a closed source plug in would simply not 
> attend that session.
>
> So I guess I'd say it's not black and white, more about whether 
> there's a significant audience for the topic and if the speaker has 
> the expertise to convey it.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> On February 13, 2017 10:48:21 AM "Ruben D. Orduz" <rubenoz at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
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> Ruben D. Orduz <mailto:rubenoz at gmail.com>
> February 13, 2017 at 10:48 AM
> Yes, it absolutely should have bearing. I vaguely remember in the 
> initial guidance email it specifies that we should not select 
> proposals that are perceived as sales pitches or vendor specific.
>
> Best,
> Ruben
>
>
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> SaintRossy, James <mailto:James_SaintRossy at comcast.com>
> February 13, 2017 at 10:29 AM
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I’m a 1st time track chair so pardon my ignorance if this question 
> seems obvious.  In my initial review for the storage track I see 
> several presentations that are vendor specific and possibly closed 
> source.  Should that have any bearing on our evaluations?
>
> Thanks, James.
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