[openstack-tc] Savanna incubation request

Anne Gentle anne at openstack.org
Thu Sep 5 16:15:05 UTC 2013


I'd also like to hear why separate programs are undesirable.

I have my own ideas and most days I feel like being conservative with
OpenStack resources but other days I feel there's an abundance. So I'd like
to hear specific concerns and viewpoints.


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>wrote:

> Gabriel Hurley wrote:
> > I think we have two fundamental questions to answer:
> >
> >   1. Is "Amazon has it, so OpenStack should too" sufficient to grant
> incubation and ultimately integration (provided all technical bars are met)?
>
> Personally I don't really consider the "does Amazon have it" angle, but
> rather "is it a critical component of an IaaS+ solution". I define
> "IaaS+" as pure infrastructure as a service + slightly more advanced
> services that act as basic building blocks for application builders
> (things like queues or databases).
>
> Now Amazon has most components of a decent IaaS+ solution, so there is
> definitely some overlap.
>
> >   2. If the answer to #1 is "yes" then should we grant each one a
> program like we're looking at with Marconi (making the proliferation based
> on Projects that we were trying to avoid happen all over again), or should
> there be a program for higher-level services that provide AWS parity (not
> the IaaS stuff) that things like Marconi, Savanna, etc. go under as
> projects within that program.
>
> Programs are all about teams. People working together toward a common
> goal (their mission statement). They elect a PTL who is responsible for
> the whole program. I don't really want to artificially group separate
> teams under an "umbrella" just because they may belong in the same
> category of projects. What would be the benefit of doing that ? I can
> certainly see a lot of drawbacks, like creating groups with no unity and
> competing subgroups.
>
> Why not grant each separate team its own program ?
>
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>
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