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On 06/09/2013 03:26 AM, Attila Fazekas wrote:
> Looks like everybody is able to change the quota at the same time, when he creates the test user.

No, this is not true. You need to have admin privileges do update the 
quota of a tenant.

> It implies the question:
>   Why do we create new tenants in test case,
>    which must be able to run in parallel with a single tenant ?
>
>   Why we not just create tenants only when it is really needed ?

As mentioned before, creating a new tenant for the test case provides 
isolation for the various list operations. If you are doing a call to, 
say, list servers or list images, you need to be able to rely on the 
result of that call not changing, otherwise you can get 
non-deterministic assertions in tests due to other users in the same 
tenant creating and destroying resources.

-jay

> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jay Pipes" <jaypipes at gmail.com>
>> To: openstack-qa at lists.openstack.org
>> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:17:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-qa] Is tempest must be able to operate without identity admin privileges?
>>
>> On 06/08/2013 02:05 PM, Daryl Walleck wrote:
>>> There's other ways to work around the quotas issue. The way I've been
>>> handling this is configuring users that have modified quota groups. This
>>> has allowed me to run all my compute tests in parallel with a single user.
>>
>> Note that the above solution runs into the exact same issue that Attila
>> is talking about: you need admin privileges in order to change the quota
>> of a tenant.
>>
>> Best,
>> -jay
>>
>>> Daryl
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Attila Fazekas [mailto:afazekas at redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 8:04 AM
>>> To: Sean Dague
>>> Cc: All Things QA.
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-qa] Is tempest must be able to operate without
>>> identity admin privileges?
>>>
>>> Do we want parallel execution in this cases ?
>>> - obviously yes
>>> - nice to have
>>> - who cares
>>>
>>> Can we expect larger quota than the default 10 in this case ?
>>> - never
>>> - usually
>>> - always
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sean Dague" <sean at dague.net>
>>>> To: "All Things QA." <openstack-qa at lists.openstack.org>
>>>> Cc: "Attila Fazekas" <afazekas at redhat.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 1:49:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-qa] Is tempest must be able to operate without
>>>> identity admin privileges?
>>>>
>>>> On 06/08/2013 03:06 AM, Attila Fazekas wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> In modeling viewpoint keeping the ability to run tempest without
>>>>> identity admin credentials is not easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The demo and alt_demo user is still in the config to maintain the
>>>>> ability, to run tempest against a cloud where you do not know the
>>>>> identity admin credentials.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know, is it real use case for anyone ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Without these users you lose the ability to run tempest against any
>>>>> cloud where you do not know the admin credentials.
>>>>>
>>>>> The benefits of removing these can give you:
>>>>>     - simpler model
>>>>>     - better role based test suite
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is a real use case, we can't remove that.
>>>>
>>>> 	-Sean
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sean Dague
>>>> http://dague.net
>>>>
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