[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin
Kruithof, Piet
pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
Thu Aug 27 19:19:18 UTC 2015
Good question. Does anyone know if it’s even possible to migrate users?
Dave,
Do you mind distributing your deck on personas? I seem to recall you
presenting them at an OpenStack summit a few years back.
Piet
Piet Kruithof
Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
PTL, OpenStack UX project
"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and
wrong.”
H L Menken
On 8/27/15, 1:02 PM, "Dave Neary" <dneary at redhat.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list
>name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members automatically?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave.
>
>On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
>> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
>> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being discussed,
>> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ju
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward then I
>> think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Shamail
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > One other question and then I’ll stop…
>> >
>> > Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create a
>> general UX
>> > email list?
>> >
>> > Piet
>> >
>> >
>> > Piet Kruithof
>> > Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> > PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >
>> >
>> > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> > wrong.”
>> >
>> > H L Menken
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
>> >>
>> >> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Piet Kruithof
>> >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >> wrong.²
>> >>
>> >> H L Menken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW. Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in conducting
>> a series
>> >>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
>> OpenStack.
>> >>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
>> participating? I
>> >>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>
>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
>> >>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>
>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
>> >>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
>> >>> To: "julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
>> >>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
>> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
>> >>> "lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
>> >>> "lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
>> >>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
>> >>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
>> >>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
>> >>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
>> >>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>
>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>@lists.o
>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>> >>> p
>> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
>> >>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>
>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>@lists.o
>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
>> >>> p
>> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
>> >>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks, yes, please include me. MUCH appreciated!
>> >>>
>> >>> Aminah Nailor
>> >>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
>> >>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>>
>><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
>> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com
>><mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
>> >>> To: Kruithof, Piet
>> >>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
>> Hintermeister;
>> >>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
>> >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
>>
>><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas
>>@lists.op
>> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
>> >>> e
>> >>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
>> helping in this
>> >>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so that
>> others are
>> >>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to
>>contribute.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Ju
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
>> >>> Hiya,
>> >>>
>> >>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
>> document.
>> >>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional resources:
>> >>>
>> >>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress,
>>draft):
>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
>> >>>
>> >>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
>> ecosystems that
>> >>> shape user roles and goals. This was driven by one of the
>> findings that
>> >>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the type
>>of
>> >>> business.
>> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
>> >>>
>> >>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
>> >>>
>>
>>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-Pz
>> >>> k
>> >>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
>> >>>
>> >>> A couple of other things. We could potentially decide that
>> there is
>> >>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
>> presentation
>> >>> around the personas. If that¹s the case, we could consider
>> pivoting and
>> >>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for community UX
>> work.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Shamail Tahir
>> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
>> <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
>> >>> l
>> >>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
>><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>> >>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>> >>> o
>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>> Ju Lim
>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe Li
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>> >>> s
>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>Hayat"
>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>> >>> .
>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>> >>> Calcaterra
>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>> >>> o
>> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>> Serena Doyle
>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>> >>> l
>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
>> Piet and I
>> >>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session) and
>> connected
>> >>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories to
>> discuss
>> >>> features/functionality. As a part of the user story, we have
>> to specify
>> >>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
>> standardized
>> >>> personas. I look forward to working with this team and being
>> able to
>> >>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
>> >>>
>> >>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
>> best to be
>> >>> there in person if possible.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
>> >>>
>>
>>https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stor
>> >>> i
>> >>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Shamail Tahir
>> >>> t: @ShamailXD
>> >>> tz: Eastern Time
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >>> As an aside, I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
>> document but
>> >>> still need to have my manager review it. Hopefully by end of
>>week.
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Liz Blanchard
>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>> >>> o
>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>
>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
>> >>> To: Ju Lim
>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>> >>> s
>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa,
>>Hayat"
>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>> >>> .
>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
>> >>> Calcaterra
>> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
>> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
>> >>> o
>> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
>> Serena
>> >>> Doyle
>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>> >>> l
>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be able to
>> travel
>> >>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
>> unfortunately. I
>> >>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of activities,
>> so I look
>> >>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
>> from the work
>> >>> you all do and apply it while designing!
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Liz
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Stan et al:
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming OpenStack
>> Summit in
>> >>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it puts a
>> lot of
>> >>> burden on my family).
>> >>>
>> >>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
>> remotely.
>> >>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if we
>> provide
>> >>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
>> additional
>> >>> folks joining in this effort.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Ju
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>> >>> s
>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Ju,
>> >>>
>> >>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
>> collaborative spaces
>> >>> designed for design collaborations.
>> >>>
>> >>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote collaboration,
>>like
>> >>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project sketches
>> over
>> >>> video streams, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Stan
>> >>>
>> >>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
>> AM---Hi Piet:
>> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju
>>Lim
>> >>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about the
>> dates
>> >>> other than it should be way before the
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Ju Lim
>> >>> <julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
>> >>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
>> >>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
>> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
>> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
>> >>> o
>> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
>> Serena Doyle
>> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
>> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
>> >>> l
>> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
>> "Benchenaa, Hayat"
>> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
>> >>> .
>> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
>> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
>> >>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
>> >>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Piet:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
>> before the
>> >>> Tokyo Summit. I'm not sure about the travel but can definitely
>> do it
>> >>> remotely via video conferencing like last time. Any thoughts
>>about
>> >>> remote participation?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Ju
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
>> >>>
>> >>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
>> >>>
>> >>> See below.
>> >>>
>> >>> The meeting will be in Austin. Do you have a preference? I
>> would like
>> >>> to do Option #3.
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>> >>> s
>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>> >>> .
>> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>> <mailto:pie>
>> >>> t
>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>> >>> .
>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>> >>> o
>> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
>> >>>
>> >>> A couple options are:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during these
>> two days.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
>> have three
>> >>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and use a
>> different
>> >>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
>> generated in
>> >>> the workshop late on 6th.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Stan
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>08:17:08
>> >>> PM---What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may
>> nee]"Kruithof,
>> >>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think? I¹m kind
>> of torn
>> >>> because we may need more than two days to work on the personas.
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>> <mailto:pie>
>> >>> t
>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>> >>> .
>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may need more
>> than two
>> >>> days to work on the personas. However, the 12-14th is a bit
>> close to the
>> >>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the
>>personas.
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
>> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
>> >>> s
>> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
>> >>> .
>> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
>> >>> <
>> >>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
>> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>> <mailto:pie>
>> >>> t
>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>> >>> .
>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
>><mailto:pieter>.
>> >>> c
>> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>> >>> r
>> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
>> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
>> >>> :
>> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
>> >>> o
>> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
>> >>> t
>> >>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Piet,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on this.
>> >>>
>> >>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop, and
>> initially
>> >>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable whiteboards
>> that we
>> >>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited availability
>> and vast
>> >>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available are:
>> 2nd and
>> >>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
>> >>>
>> >>> Would these two times work?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
>> available
>> >>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a
>>persona
>> >>> workshop.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Stan
>> >>>
>> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015
>>02:54:26
>> >>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
>> ---08/25/2015
>> >>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
>> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
>> >>> i
>> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>>
>><mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
>> <mailto:pie>
>> >>> t
>> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
>> >>> .
>> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter
>><mailto:pieter>.
>> >>> c
>> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
>> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
>> >>> r
>> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
>> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
>> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
>> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
>> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
>> >>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
>> >>>
>> >>> Hope all is well.
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed
>>persona
>> >>> workshop. Where you still interested in hosting in Austin? If
>> so, what
>> >>> dates did you have in mind?
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Piet Kruithof
>> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
>> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
>> >>>
>> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
>> neat and
>> >>> wrong.²
>> >>>
>> >>> H L Menken
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM]
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Ju Lim
>> >>> Red Hat
>> >>> Office:
>> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
>> >>> Mobile:
>> >>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
>> <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
>> <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
>> >>> Email:
>> >>> julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>> >>> j
>> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>> >>> IRC: julim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Ju Lim
>> >>> Red Hat
>> >>> Office:
>> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
>> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
>> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
>> >>> Mobile:
>> >>>
>>781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
>> >>> Email:
>> >>> julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
>> >>> j
>> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
>> >>> IRC: julim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Ju Lim
>> >>> Red Hat
>> >>> Office: 978-399-0422
>> >>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
>> >>> Email: julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
>> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
>> >>> IRC: julim
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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