[Openstack-personas] Persona meeting in Austin
Dave Neary
dneary at redhat.com
Thu Aug 27 19:02:57 UTC 2015
Hi,
I for one would like to continue following the discussion - if the list
name changes, would you re-subscribe persona list members automatically?
Thanks,
Dave.
On 08/27/2015 01:23 PM, Ju Lim wrote:
> +1 to having an OpenStack UX mailing list, and then having something
> [$subject] in the email reference for the topic that is being discussed,
> much like the openstack-dev mailing list.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Ju
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Shamail <itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If personas will be maintained by the UX team moving forward then I
> think it makes sense to collapse the ML.
>
> Thanks,
> Shamail
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > One other question and then I’ll stop…
> >
> > Should we remove the OpenStack personas email list and create a
> general UX
> > email list?
> >
> > Piet
> >
> >
> > Piet Kruithof
> > Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> > PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >
> >
> > "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> > wrong.”
> >
> > H L Menken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 8/27/15, 9:27 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Apologies - the question was intended for Aminah.
> >>
> >> MustŠgetŠcoffee...
> >>
> >>
> >> Piet Kruithof
> >> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>
> >>
> >> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >> wrong.²
> >>
> >> H L Menken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 8/27/15, 9:23 AM, "Kruithof, Piet"
> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> BTW. Hayat (Intel Open Source UX) is interested in conducting
> a series
> >>> of interviews to understand the installation experience for
> OpenStack.
> >>> Where you or someone in your organization interested in
> participating? I
> >>> imagine the interview would last no more than an hour.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: "Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>"
> >>> <Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>>
> >>> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 9:19 AM
> >>> To: "julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>"
> >>> <julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>, Piet Kruithof
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>
> >>> Cc: "itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>"
> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>,
> >>> "lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>"
> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>,
> >>> "lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>> "gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>> "hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>"
> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>,
> >>> "jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>"
> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>,
> >>> "sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>"
> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>>>,
> >>> "openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
> >>> p
> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>"
> >>> <openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.o>
> >>> p
> >>> enstack.org <http://enstack.org>>>
> >>> Subject: RE: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, yes, please include me. MUCH appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Aminah Nailor
> >>> Phone 404.973.7729 <tel:404.973.7729>
> >>> Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com><mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com
> <mailto:Aminah.Nailor at wellsfargo.com>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Ju Lim [mailto:julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:14 AM
> >>> To: Kruithof, Piet
> >>> Cc: Shamail Tahir; Liz Blanchard; Stan Haozhe Li; Greg
> Hintermeister;
> >>> Benchenaa, Hayat; Jeffrey A Calcaterra; Serena Doyle;
> >>> openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.openstack.org><mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op
> <mailto:openstack-personas at lists.op>
> >>> e
> >>> nstack.org <http://nstack.org>>; Nailor, Aminah
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> Including Aminah Nailor as she has expressed interest in
> helping in this
> >>> effort as well as the OpenStack Personas mailing list so that
> others are
> >>> aware of this effort and can chime in if they wish to contribute.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ju
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>> wrote:
> >>> Hiya,
> >>>
> >>> My manager still needs to review (scrub) the HP cloud roles
> document.
> >>> However, I did want to point yo at some additional resources:
> >>>
> >>> Personas developed by the UX working group (in progress, draft):
> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Personas
> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PersonaPotentialRoles
> >>>
> >>> One of the approaches was to organize the personas as
> ecosystems that
> >>> shape user roles and goals. This was driven by one of the
> findings that
> >>> attitudes about OpenStack vary significantly based on the type of
> >>> business.
> >>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Personas
> >>>
> >>> Data collected from the persona interviews about a year ago:
> >>>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CslXeXMUDNv1DsBEVSZWJbGmPnejJW-Pz
> >>> k
> >>> IWege5-ZA/edit?usp=sharing
> >>>
> >>> A couple of other things. We could potentially decide that
> there is
> >>> enough data and its just a matter of refining and creating a
> presentation
> >>> around the personas. If that¹s the case, we could consider
> pivoting and
> >>> using the time in Austin as a strategy session for community UX
> work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Shamail Tahir
> >>> <itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com><mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>><mailto:itzshamail at gmai
> <mailto:itzshamail at gmai>
> >>> l
> >>> .com<mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com <mailto:itzshamail at gmail.com>>>>
> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 9:30 PM
> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>> Cc: Liz Blanchard
> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>> o
> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
> Ju Lim
> >>> <julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>, Stan Haozhe Li
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>> s
> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa, Hayat"
> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>> .
> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
> >>> Calcaterra
> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
> >>> o
> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
> Serena Doyle
> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>> l
> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for letting me participate in this working session.
> Piet and I
> >>> met at the operators summit (during the product WG session) and
> connected
> >>> on this topic since the Product WG is writing user stories to
> discuss
> >>> features/functionality. As a part of the user story, we have
> to specify
> >>> actors/personas and, currently, we have not defined any
> standardized
> >>> personas. I look forward to working with this team and being
> able to
> >>> share the work done here with the Product WG team.
> >>>
> >>> I will most likely have to attend remotely but I will try my
> best to be
> >>> there in person if possible.
> >>>
> >>> Here is a sample user story currently in our repository:
> >>>
> https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/blob/master/user-stor
> >>> i
> >>> es/draft/rollingupgrades.rst
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Shamail Tahir
> >>> t: @ShamailXD
> >>> tz: Eastern Time
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> wrote:
> >>> As an aside, I went ahead and scrubbed HP¹s cloud roles
> document but
> >>> still need to have my manager review it. Hopefully by end of week.
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Liz Blanchard
> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>> o
> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>
> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM
> >>> To: Ju Lim
> >>> <julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>> s
> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>>, Greg Hintermeister
> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>, "Benchenaa, Hayat"
> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>> .
> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>, Jeffrey A
> >>> Calcaterra
> >>> <jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>><mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c
> <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.c>
> >>> o
> >>> m<mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com <mailto:jacalcat at us.ibm.com>>>>,
> Piet Kruithof
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>,
> Serena
> >>> Doyle
> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>> l
> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for including me in the conversation. I won't be able to
> travel
> >>> this year so I won't be able to attend this in person
> unfortunately. I
> >>> know that F2F is much preferred for these types of activities,
> so I look
> >>> forward to hearing how it goes and hope to be able to learn
> from the work
> >>> you all do and apply it while designing!
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Liz
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ju Lim
> >>> <julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>> wrote:
> >>> Hi Stan et al:
> >>>
> >>> I agree F2F is preferable; however, with the upcoming OpenStack
> Summit in
> >>> Tokyo, I'm trying to reduce traveling that month (as it puts a
> lot of
> >>> burden on my family).
> >>>
> >>> That being said, I'd be happy to participate and collaborate
> remotely.
> >>> Additionally, we might be able to get more participation if we
> provide
> >>> remote collaboration capabilities -- if we're interested in
> additional
> >>> folks joining in this effort.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ju
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Stan Haozhe Li
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>> s
> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Ju,
> >>>
> >>> Face to face collaboration would be ideal as we have
> collaborative spaces
> >>> designed for design collaborations.
> >>>
> >>> But we can also use tools to facilitate remote collaboration, like
> >>> Mura.ly for post-it sessions, Ziggy Cameras to project sketches
> over
> >>> video streams, etc.
> >>>
> >>> -Stan
> >>>
> >>> [Inactive hide details for Ju Lim ---08/26/2015 10:34:59
> AM---Hi Piet:
> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be w]Ju Lim
> >>> ---08/26/2015 10:34:59 AM---Hi Piet: I'm indifferent about the
> dates
> >>> other than it should be way before the
> >>>
> >>> From: Ju Lim
> >>> <julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> julim at redhat.com <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>>>
> >>> To: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> >>> Cc: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS, Jeffrey A
> >>> Calcaterra/Raleigh/IBM at IBMUS, Liz Blanchard
> >>> <lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com><mailto:lsurette at redhat.com
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>><mailto:lsurette at redhat.c
> <mailto:lsurette at redhat.c>
> >>> o
> >>> m<mailto:lsurette at redhat.com <mailto:lsurette at redhat.com>>>>,
> Serena Doyle
> >>> <sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com>><mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com
> <mailto:sdoyle at redhat.com><mai
> >>> l
> >>> to:sdoyle at redhat.com <mailto:to%3Asdoyle at redhat.com>>>>,
> "Benchenaa, Hayat"
> >>> <hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>><mailto:hayat <mailto:hayat>
> >>> .
> >>> benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:benchenaa at intel.com><mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com
> <mailto:hayat.benchenaa at intel.com>>>>
> >>> Date: 08/26/2015 10:34 AM
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Piet:
> >>>
> >>> I'm indifferent about the dates other than it should be way
> before the
> >>> Tokyo Summit. I'm not sure about the travel but can definitely
> do it
> >>> remotely via video conferencing like last time. Any thoughts about
> >>> remote participation?
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ju
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Kruithof, Piet
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ccing a few folks (who may be attending)
> >>>
> >>> Ju, Liz, Jeff, Serena and Hyat,
> >>>
> >>> See below.
> >>>
> >>> The meeting will be in Austin. Do you have a preference? I
> would like
> >>> to do Option #3.
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>> s
> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
> >>> .
> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 at 8:54 AM
> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> <mailto:pie>
> >>> t
> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
> >>> .
> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
> >>> o
> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It's actually 5th and 6th of October instead of 2nd and 3rd.
> >>>
> >>> A couple options are:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Keep the workshop to be 2 days, and stay late during these
> two days.
> >>>
> >>> 2. We can schedule the workshop from 4th to 6th, so that we
> have three
> >>> days, but this would require people to come on Sunday.
> >>>
> >>> 3. We can use the collaborative space on 5th and 6th, and use a
> different
> >>> space on 7th, but this would require we move all artifacts
> generated in
> >>> the workshop late on 6th.
> >>>
> >>> -Stan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08
> >>> PM---What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may
> nee]"Kruithof,
> >>> Piet" ---08/25/2015 08:17:08 PM---What do you think? I¹m kind
> of torn
> >>> because we may need more than two days to work on the personas.
> >>>
> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> <mailto:pie>
> >>> t
> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
> >>> .
> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS
> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 08:17 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What do you think? I¹m kind of torn because we may need more
> than two
> >>> days to work on the personas. However, the 12-14th is a bit
> close to the
> >>> summit and won¹t leave us a lot of time to prepare the personas.
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Stan Haozhe Li
> >>> <lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at u <mailto:lih at u>
> >>> s
> >>> .ibm.com <http://ibm.com>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>><mailto:lih at us.ibm <mailto:lih at us.ibm>
> >>> .
> >>> com<mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>
> >>> <
> >>> mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com><mailto:lih at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:lih at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 2:07 PM
> >>> To: Piet Kruithof
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> <mailto:pie>
> >>> t
> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
> >>> .
> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>.
> >>> c
> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
> >>> r
> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>> Cc: Greg Hintermeister
> >>> <gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto
> >>> :
> >>> gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>><mailt
> >>> o
> >>> :gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mail
> >>> t
> >>> o:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:o%3Agregh at us.ibm.com>><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com><mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com
> <mailto:gregh at us.ibm.com>>>>>
> >>> Subject: Re: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Piet,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for reaching out, I was just about to email you on this.
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to secure rooms for the persona workshop, and
> initially
> >>> I try to book the collaborative spaces with movable whiteboards
> that we
> >>> have in the design studio. However, due to limited availability
> and vast
> >>> demand, the earliest days these spaces would be available are:
> 2nd and
> >>> 3rd October and 12 to 14 October.
> >>>
> >>> Would these two times work?
> >>>
> >>> I'm still looking for rooms at other buildings that might be
> available
> >>> earlier, but I think these design spaces are ideal for a persona
> >>> workshop.
> >>>
> >>> -Stan
> >>>
> >>> [Inactive hide details for "Kruithof, Piet" ---08/25/2015 02:54:26
> >>> PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.]"Kruithof, Piet"
> ---08/25/2015
> >>> 02:54:26 PM---Hi Stan | Hi Greg, Hope all is well.
> >>>
> >>> From: "Kruithof, Piet"
> >>> <pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:p <mailto:p>
> >>> i
> >>> eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:eter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>><mailto:pie
> <mailto:pie>
> >>> t
> >>> er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:er.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>
> >>> .
> >>> c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:c.kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>><mailto:pieter <mailto:pieter>.
> >>> c
> >>> .kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:kruithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>><mailto:pieter.c.k
> <mailto:pieter.c.k>
> >>> r
> >>> uithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:uithof-jr at hp.com><mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com
> <mailto:pieter.c.kruithof-jr at hp.com>>>>>
> >>> To: Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM at IBMUS, Greg
> >>> Hintermeister/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> >>> Date: 08/25/2015 02:54 PM
> >>> Subject: Persona meeting in Austin
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Stan | Hi Greg,
> >>>
> >>> Hope all is well.
> >>>
> >>> I was wondering whether you have thought about the proposed persona
> >>> workshop. Where you still interested in hosting in Austin? If
> so, what
> >>> dates did you have in mind?
> >>>
> >>> Piet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Piet Kruithof
> >>> Sr UX Architect, HP Helion Cloud
> >>> PTL, OpenStack UX project
> >>>
> >>> "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple,
> neat and
> >>> wrong.²
> >>>
> >>> H L Menken
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [attachment "graycol.gif" deleted by Stan Haozhe Li/Austin/IBM]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ju Lim
> >>> Red Hat
> >>> Office:
> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422>>>
> >>> Mobile:
> >>> 781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323
> <tel:781-507-1323>><tel:781-507-1323
> <tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323 <tel:781-507-1323>>>
> >>> Email:
> >>> julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
> >>> j
> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
> >>> IRC: julim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ju Lim
> >>> Red Hat
> >>> Office:
> >>> 978-399-0422 <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422
> <tel:978-399-0422>><tel:978-399-0422
> <tel:978-399-0422><tel:978-399-0422>>
> >>> Mobile:
> >>> 781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323><tel:781-507-1323<tel:781-507-1323>>
> >>> Email:
> >>> julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:
> >>> j
> >>> ulim at redhat.com <mailto:ulim at redhat.com>>>
> >>> IRC: julim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ju Lim
> >>> Red Hat
> >>> Office: 978-399-0422
> >>> Mobile: 781-507-1323
> >>> Email: julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com><mailto:julim at redhat.com
> <mailto:julim at redhat.com>>
> >>> IRC: julim
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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>
> --
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