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I agree with Anita and wonder why Train did not meet the criteria? If there
is no way for Train to be an option outside of killing the voting, than for
the sake of integrity of processes which I have heard quite a few people
hold close to we should drop Train from the list. It is an unfortunate
thing in my view because I am actually a "non-developer" who agreed during
the feedback session that Train would be a great name but Anita is right on
this one imho.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:32 AM Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:

> On 2018-10-18 2:35 a.m., Tony Breeds wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >      As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release have
> > now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
> > qualifying remarks can be seen at2].
> >
> > Proposed Names
> >   * Tarryall
> >   * Teakettle
> >   * Teller
> >   * Telluride
> >   * Thomas
> >   * Thornton
> >   * Tiger
> >   * Tincup
> >   * Timnath
> >   * Timber
> >   * Tiny Town
> >   * Torreys
> >   * Trail
> >   * Trinidad
> >   * Treasure
> >   * Troublesome
> >   * Trussville
> >   * Turret
> >   * Tyrone
> >
> > Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
> >   * Train
> >
> > However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
> > the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is
> >
> >   * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
> >   * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
> >     sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
> >   * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
> >     geographic based name for U[5]
> >   * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
> >     run the poll
> >
> > I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before
> the
> > TC can consider / vote on it.
> >
> > Yours Tony.
> >
> > [1]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
> > [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
> > [3]
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
> > [4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
> > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z
>
> I stand in opposition to any action that further undermines democracy.
>
> I have avoided events in Denver lately for this reason.
>
> If the support for Train is as universal as is portrayed, the poll with
> show us that.
>
> I don't care what the name is. I do want to participate in the
> selection. The method of participating has heretofore been a poll. I
> have seen no convincing argument to abandon the use of a poll now.
>
> I stand for what democracy there remains. I would like to participate in
> a poll.
>
> Thank you, Anita
>
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