[Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [QA][LCOO] MEX-ops-meetup: OpenStack Extreme Testing

Boris Pavlovic boris at pavlovic.me
Wed Nov 1 07:02:34 UTC 2017


Sam,

 Etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-extreme-testing


I really don't want to sound like a person that say use Rally my best ever
project blablbab and other BS.
I think that "reinventing wheels" approach is how humanity evolves and
that's why I like this effort in any case.

But really, I read carefully etherpad and I really see in description of
Eris just plain Rally as is:

- Rally allows you to create tests as YAML
- Rally allows you to inject in various actions during the load (Rally
Hooks) which makes it easy to do chaos and other kind of testing
- Rally is pluggable and you can write even your own Runners (scenario
executors) that will generate load pattern that you need
- Rally has SLAs plugins (that can deeply analyze result of test cases) and
say whatever they pass or not
- We are working on feature that allows you to mix different workloads in
parallel (and generate more realistic load)
-.....

So it would be really nice if you can share gaps that you faced that are
blocking you to use directly Rally..

Thanks!

Best regards,
Boris Pavlovic


On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Sam P <sam47priya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>  Sending out a gentle reminder of Sydney Summit Forum Session
> regarding this topic.
>
>  Extreme/Destructive Testing
>  Tuesday, November 7, 1:50pm-2:30pm
>  Sydney Convention and Exhibition Centre - Level 4 - C4.11
>  [https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-
> schedule/events/20470/extremedestructive-testing]
>  Eatherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-extreme-testing
>
>  Your participation in this session would be greatly appreciated.
> --- Regards,
> Sampath
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch> wrote:
> > +1 for Boris’ suggestion. Many of us use Rally to probe our clouds and
> have
> > significant tooling behind it to integrate with local availability
> reporting
> > and trouble ticketing systems. It would be much easier to deploy new
> > functionality such as you propose if it was integrated into an existing
> > project framework (such as Rally).
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Boris Pavlovic <boris at pavlovic.me>
> > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > Date: Monday, 14 August 2017 at 12:57
> > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > Cc: openstack-operators <openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [QA][LCOO] MEX-ops-meetup: OpenStack Extreme
> > Testing
> >
> >
> >
> > Sam,
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems like a good plan and huge topic ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > I would as well suggest to take a look at the similar efforts in
> OpenStack:
> >
> > - Failure injection: https://github.com/openstack/os-faults
> >
> > - Rally Hooks Mechanism (to inject in rally scenarios failures):
> > https://rally.readthedocs.io/en/latest/plugins/implementation/hook_and_
> trigger_plugins.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Boris Pavlovic
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Sam P <sam47priya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is a follow up for OpenStack Extreme Testing session[1]
> > we did in MEX-ops-meetup.
> >
> > Quick intro for those who were not there:
> > In this work, we proposed to add new testing framework for openstack.
> > This framework will provides tool for create tests with destructive
> > scenarios which will check for High Availability, failover and
> > recovery of OpenStack cloud.
> > Please refer the link on top of the [1] for further details.
> >
> > Follow up:
> > We are planning periodic irc meeting and have an irc
> > channel for discussion. I will get back to you with those details soon.
> >
> > At that session, we did not have time to discuss last 3 items,
> > Reference architectures
> >  We are discussing about the reference architecture in [2].
> >
> > What sort of failures do you see today in your environment?
> >  Currently we are considering, service failures, backend services (mq,
> > DB, etc.) failures,
> >  Network sw failures..etc. To begin with the implementation, we are
> > considering to start with
> >  service failures. Please let us know what failures are more frequent
> > in your environment.
> >
> > Emulation/Simulation mechanisms, etc.
> >  Rather than doing actual scale, load, or performance tests, we are
> > thinking to build a emulation/simulation mechanism
> > to get the predictions or result of how will openstack behave on such
> > situations.
> > This interesting idea was proposed by the Gautam and need more
> > discussion on this.
> >
> > Please let us know you questions or comments.
> >
> > Request to Mike Perez:
> >  We discussed about synergies with openstack assertion tags and other
> > efforts to do similar testing in openstack.
> >  Could you please give some info or pointer of previous discussions.
> >
> > [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-extreme-testing
> > [2]
> > https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/
> LCOO/pages/15477787/Extreme+Testing-Vision+Arch
> >
> > --- Regards,
> > Sampath
> >
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