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Thanks a lot for kind explanation, Andreas and Akihiro-san.

Please see the inline for my several thoughts:


Akihiro Motoki wrote on 9/16/2016 5:19 PM:
> Thanks Andreas for the info.
>
> Kato-san, could you take care of it?
> You can do it yourself or delegate it to someone else,
> but it is better to do it soon. Otherwise master and stable-newton
> will be diverged.
+1 :)

And according to one previous e-mail: 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-March/001984.html ,
Horizon and its related projects, and server projects are the main 
targets to create "stable-newton" version in Zanata.

>> Syncing to Zanata works automatically if there is a stable-newton (note
>> the "-", Zanata does not allow "/"!) branch.
> That's what was unclear to me. Thanks.
> So, the question now is who creates stable-newton version in Zanata.
> I think only the limited folks can do that. Perhaps Daisy, Kato-san, Andreas?
When I see 'maintainers' part in Zanata, "infra" account is the manager 
for all projects,
like: https://translate.openstack.org/project/view/horizon/maintainers .

So it may be Zanata "infra" account? And I think Zanata team members 
(Alex, Carlos) might know the privilege.


With many thanks,

/Ian
> In addition to the permission, the tips on creating a Zanata version
> has not been shared.
>
> Akihiro
>
> 2016-09-16 14:32 GMT+09:00 Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com>:
>> On 09/16/2016 04:30 AM, Akihiro Motoki wrote:
>>> Hi Ian,
>>>
>>> 2016-09-16 9:54 GMT+09:00 Ian Y. Choi <ianyrchoi at gmail.com>:
>>>> Hello Andreas and i18n team members,
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday (according to UTC), Kato-san and me discussed this topic in IRC
>>>> meeting [1],
>>>>      but we are not sure when we will have stable-newton branch.
>>>> I think it is time to create stable-newton branch now and Kato-san will deal
>>>> with,
>>>> but I would like to ask some details to clarify the best timing of creating
>>>> a stable branch.
>>>>
>>>> When should i18n team create a stable branch (e.g., stable-newton) in
>>>> Zanata?
>>> Although I am not familiar with Zanata operations, I think the i18n
>>> team needs to
>>> create 'stable-newton' version by branching 'master' version in Zanata
>>> to inherit
>>> translation works made in the master version so far.
>>>
>>> In my understanding, what we need to do are:
>>> (a) create stable-newton version in Zanata from master version -> i18n team
>>> (b) release RC1 deliverables and create stable/newton branch in git
>>> repositories -> each project team and release team
>>> (c) set up project-config to sync repositories and translations for
>>> stable/newton -> infra team (I can as well)
>> Syncing to Zanata works automatically if there is a stable-newton (note
>> the "-", Zanata does not allow "/"!) branch. Importing into
>> stable/newton needs project-config changes. If you would do that, it
>> would be great!
>>
>>
>>> There is no strict relationship between (a) and (b), and either of
>>> them can happen first.
>>> If the timing of (a) and (b) are closer, most translation work in
>>> 'master' in Zanata are copied into 'stable-newton' version.
>>> (c) needs to be done after both (a) and (b).
>> Indeed,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>>> I thought just after from "Hard StringFreeze" in [2] would be the right
>>>> time,
>>>> or checking at least Horizon development status (since the focus of i18n
>>>> team now is Horizon related projects)
>>>> would be needed. (Previously we had I18n cross project liaisons [3].)
>>> To be honest, RC1 release means 'Hard String Freeze'. That's all.
>>> We can know RC1 release notices by various ways:
>>> - checking release announcements,
>>> - checking openstack/releases reviews [5],
>>> - checking releases.openstack.org [6]
>>>
>>> I think we should prepare stable-newton version in Zanata for all projects,
>>> even though most of the i18n team focus on horizon related translations.
>>>
>>> I am not sure i18n liaisons for horizon related projects work in this cycle.
>>> We have sent no reminder for i18n liaisons...
>>> In the previous release, I took care of horizon related projects but
>>> it is beyond
>>> the role of horizon-i18n liaison and I am not taking care of them
>>> (except horizon itself).
>>>
>>> Horizon RC1 will be shipped in several hours. The team is preparing
>>> the release now.
>>>
>>>> Or should we start gradually the projects merged with "topic:create-[release
>>>> name]" patches, like [4]?
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-09-15-13.03.html
>>>> [2] https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html
>>>> [3] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#I18n
>>>> [4] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:create-newton
>>> [5] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/releases+path:%255Edeliverables/newton/.*
>>> [6] https://releases.openstack.org/newton/index.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Akihiro
>>>
>>>>
>>>> With many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> /Ian
>>>>
>>>> Andreas Jaeger wrote on 9/16/2016 3:35 AM:
>>>>> Could somebody please set up stable-newton branches for those projects
>>>>> that should get translations of them, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> With RC1 today, projects are creating stable/newton branches now,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
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