[Openstack-i18n] Translations for release notes in Mitaka? Perhaps NO

Ian Y. Choi ianyrchoi at gmail.com
Tue Mar 22 05:01:24 UTC 2016


Hello,

IMO translations for release notes are helpful for local group people, so
I subscribed 'Release notes translation' on i18n launchpad a few months 
ago :)
: 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/release-notes-translation 


I have a question on http://releases.openstack.org/<lang> ,
which may be used later after translating all release notes on many 
OpenStack projects.
After translating releasenotes on each project (e.g., nova, horizon),
a new commit will be made including a commit like 'Import Zanata 
translation'.

Then, do we need to also change the commit hash values on releases 
repository,
like 
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/deliverables/mitaka/horizon.yaml 
,
every time Zanata imports?

I think translations on releases.openstack.org would be the next procedures,
but frequent change on commit hash values for translated release notes 
would not be good idea.
So I think, for release notes, higher threshold (e.g., =100%, <95%) 
would be nice idea I think.


With many thanks,

/Ian


KATO Tomoyuki wrote on 3/22/2016 1:28 PM:
> Hi Akihiro,
>
> Just a my "current" consideration inline.
>
>> Thanks Kato and Andreas for clarification.
>>
>> In my local testing, POT file generation and translated document generation work
>> though some minor improvements are needed. I don't see blocking issues so far.
>> So I think what we need to do are:
>> * Automatic generation of POT files (granularity of POT files needs to
>> be discussed. In my understanding, all release notes are generated
>> from the master branch.)
> +1
>
>> * How and where to publish translated release notes
> publish as regular translation jobs, like docs.
> http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/<project>/<lang>
>
>> * Where to have locale files in each project tree
> /releasenotes/source/locale/<lang>
>
>> * Infra script improvements of translation imports
>>    (As a project core reviewer, we don't want to have two zanata
>> translation imports
>>     for normal translations and release note translations)
> include current translation import job.
>
> Thanks,
> Kato
>
>> Others?
>>
>> Akihiro
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-21 22:40 GMT+09:00 Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com>:
>>> On 2016-03-21 14:07, Akihiro Motoki wrote:
>>>> The release management team has changed the process of generating
>>>> releases notes for Mitaka.
>>>> Release notes are generated from YAML files in individual repos by using reno.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that we don't have translation support for Mitaka
>>>> release notes.
>>>> Is it correct?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> After checking the meeting minutes, I found Kato has an action item
>>>> to talk about it with the relmgt team. is there any feedback?
>>> There was an email by Doug Hellmann that translation of release notes is
>>> one of his goals for the Newton release cycle. I quickly found his
>>> statement as PTL:
>>>
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291778/1/candidates/newton/Release_Management/Doug_Hellmann.txt
>>>
>>>> Personally I am okay with it. I am always using English release notes :-)
>>>> I am translating release notes only for reading them carefully and
>>>> better understanding of the release.
>>> Andreas
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