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Hi, Doug

After testing, I figured out a best way which has the lowest impact.
1. Create Russian translation files with only the correct header and the 
pluralities translation items.
2. Create a new version named as russian-fix
3. Upload the source files and the Russian translation files created in #1 
to the version russian-fix
4. Merge the stable version with version russian-fix
5. Rename stable version to stable-old, and rename russian-fix to stable.

You could verify if the issues are fixed in russian-fix ?
https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/horizon/russian-fix

Best regards
Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)


Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 09/24/2015 02:41:16 AM:

> From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
> Cc: ilyaalekseyev at acm.org, openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> Date: 09/24/2015 02:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> 
> I don't think these kinds of structural edits are available through 
> the Zanata UI (I'm not expert and welcome any correction)
> 
> I don't have a script to automatically do the updates but I did 
> outline my plan in the bug description. To repeat here:
> cd openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
> cp django.po django.po-tmp
> grep -v msgstr.2. django.po-tmp > django.po
> sed -i s/msgstr.3./msgstr[2]/ django.po
> and edit the plurality function to be
> "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && 
n"
> "%10<=4 && (n%100<12 || n%100>14) ? 1 : 2);\n"
> was my plan to fix the openstack_dashboard ... django.po file. This 
> is the only one that results in bad behavior in Horizon today.
> 
> However, since this is such a difficult process I think we should 
> update all 4 Russian PO file while we are doing this:
> openstack_dashboard/horizon and django.po/djangojs.po for each part.
> 
> Daisy - I'm happy to help work through this, including testing out 
> our proposed files in Horizon. Do you want to schedule a time and 
> coordinate this through openstack-i18n or some meeting IRC channel?
> 
> Doug
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM
> To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS@IBMAU
> Cc: ilyaalekseyev at acm.org, openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2015 11:25 AM
> 
> Thank you for looking into it, Illya.
> I think we need to fix it, although the manually process might be a 
> little complex.
> 
> I'm going to:
> 1. Create a new version in Zanata
> 2. Mark master as read only
> 2. Pull the source files and the translation files.
> 3. Change the pluralities settings in Russian translation files.
> 4. Upload the source files and translation files to the new version.
> 5. Check if the all things are right, change master version name to 
> "master-old", 
> and then change the new version name to "master"
> 
> How do you want to update these pluralities then? By program ? Or 
manually ?
> Is it possible to make the changes through Zanata UI, other than 
> uploading po files ?
> 
> Best regards
> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> 
> 
> Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 09/23/2015 04:38:19 AM:
> 
> > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > To: ilyaalekseyev at acm.org
> > Cc: guoyingc at cn.ibm.com, openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > Date: 09/23/2015 04:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > 
> > Hi Ilya,
> > 
> > Thanks for looking at this! Unfortunately having 4 pluralities
> > confuses Horizon. I've tested out stripping one of the pluralities
> > and restoring the expected Plural-forms definition (just like the
> > one you linked) and it works great.
> > 
> > I had hoped to just repair the PO files in this way and upload the
> > corrected translations to Zanata.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I understand from Daisy's research that once a
> > language/project has been created in Zanata in this way we cannot
> > just upload a PO file with corrected pluralities . More
> > investigation will be needed to understand the process to fix this.
> > 
> > Doug 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original message -----
> > From: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev at acm.org>
> > Sent by: ilya at phpcoder.ru
> > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > Cc: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>, "openstack-
> > i18n at lists.openstack.org" <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 2:39 PM
> > 
> > Hi Doug and Daisy! 
> > 
> > Looks like we have wrong pluralities in current release:
> > in https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/
> > openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po
> > 
> > we have: 
> > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 
&& n"
> > "%10<=4 && (n%100<12 || n%100>14) ? 1 : n%10==0 || (n%10>=5 && n%
> 10<=9) || (n"
> > "%100>=11 && n%100<=14)? 2 : 3);\n"
> > 
> > but in previuos releses we have:
> > "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%
> > 10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);\n"
> > 
> > Last one is right for Russian.
> > 
> > We can make translation in Zanata for 4 pluralities, but it can give
> > in some cases bugs with wrong plural forms.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Ilya Alekseyev.
> > 
> > 2015-09-22 14:22 GMT+03:00 Douglas Fish <drfish at us.ibm.com>: 
> > Hi Daisy,
> > 
> > I am certain this issue is caused by plural forms. The issue with
> > missing menus is seen with the current 4 plural form translations;
> > when I correct the PO file to have 3 forms Horizon properly 
> displaysthe menus.
> > 
> > Doug 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original message -----
> > From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM
> > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS@IBMAU
> > Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 12:49 AM
> > 
> > Hi, Doug
> >
> > We need to consider it carefully.
> >
> > After working with Zanata dev team, I got to understand:
> >
> > 1. Zanata has its own plural forms. If po file has its own plural
> > form, Zanata will use that.
> > Otherwise, Zanata will use its own plural form. Pluralforms in Zanata:
> > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 &&
> > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2).
> > So it looks like that OpenStack po files overrode the pluralforms in 
Zanata.
> >
> > 2. Zanata currently don't allow update of plural forms once the
> > document has been uploaded to Zanata.
> > Even with deletion of that source document and re-upload (in the
> > same project-version, same doc name and same path),
> > Zanata will still reuse the old pluralform.
> >
> > 3. If we want to update the pluralforms, we will need to do it in
> > new project-version
> > (don't use copy-from previous version function).
> >
> > I think we need to carefully design the steps to change pluralforms
> > of Russian.
> > At first, I want to confirm with you, are you sure this issue is
> > caused by plural forms?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> >
> >
> > Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 2015/09/18 23:38:22:
> >
> > > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > > To: guoyingc at cn.ibm.com
> > > Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > > Date: 2015/09/18 23:38
> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > > 
> > > Hi Daisy,
> > > 
> > > Yes, I understand - I don't think I can even propose my branch
> > > unless I am added as a translator by the Russian team.
> > > 
> > > My proposal would include removing one plural form for
> > > 4 messages in horizon django.po
> > > 1 message in horizon djangojs.po
> > > 144 messages in openstack_dashboard django.po
> > > 0 messages in openstack_dashboard djangojs.po
> > > plus the pluralization specification would be updated in all 4 
files.
> > > 
> > > Doug
> > > 
> > > ----- Original message -----
> > > From: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> > > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > > Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > > Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 3:25 AM
> > > 
> > > Are there a lot of changes in your proposed po files ?
> > > I'm still waiting for Russian team's response.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> > >
> > >
> > > "Douglas Fish" <drfish at us.ibm.com> wrote on 09/18/2015 05:37:07 AM:
> > >
> > > > From: "Douglas Fish" <drfish at us.ibm.com>
> > > > To: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > > > Date: 09/18/2015 05:38 AM
> > > > Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > > > 
> > > > Hi translation friends,
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to contribute 4 PO files for the Horizon Russian
> > > > translation to correct the issue
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1494819
> > > >
> > > > These uploads won't contain any new translations, but instead will
> > > > be an adjustment to the PO files so they have 3 pluralities, which
> > > is standard
> > > > http://localization-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/l10n/
> pluralforms.html
> > > >
> > > > Specifically, I plan to remove the msgstr[2] translation from the
> > > > files (because msgstr[2] is blank for many cases), rename the 
msgstr
> > > > [3] translation to msgstr[2] and adjust the plurality 
specification to
> > > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 
&&
> > > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);
> > > >
> > > > As discussed in the team meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/
> > > > meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting.
> > > > 2015-09-17-13.00.log.html
> > > > please create a Zanata branch so I can propose these corrections
> > for review.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
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> > 
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