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Thank you for looking into it, Illya.
I think we need to fix it, although the manually process might be a little 
complex.

I'm going to:
1. Create a new version in Zanata
2. Mark master as read only
2. Pull the source files and the translation files.
3. Change the pluralities settings in Russian translation files.
4. Upload the source files and translation files to the new version.
5. Check if the all things are right, change master version name to 
"master-old", 
and then change the new version name to "master"

How do you want to update these pluralities then? By program ? Or manually 
?
Is it possible to make the changes through Zanata UI, other than uploading 
po files ?

Best regards
Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)


Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 09/23/2015 04:38:19 AM:

> From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> To: ilyaalekseyev at acm.org
> Cc: guoyingc at cn.ibm.com, openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> Date: 09/23/2015 04:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> 
> Hi Ilya,
> 
> Thanks for looking at this! Unfortunately having 4 pluralities 
> confuses Horizon. I've tested out stripping one of the pluralities 
> and restoring the expected Plural-forms definition (just like the 
> one you linked) and it works great.
> 
> I had hoped to just repair the PO files in this way and upload the 
> corrected translations to Zanata.
> 
> Unfortunately, I understand from Daisy's research that once a 
> language/project has been created in Zanata in this way we cannot 
> just upload a PO file with corrected pluralities . More 
> investigation will be needed to understand the process to fix this.
> 
> Doug 
> 
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Ilya Alekseyev <ilyaalekseyev at acm.org>
> Sent by: ilya at phpcoder.ru
> To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> Cc: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>, "openstack-
> i18n at lists.openstack.org" <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 2:39 PM
> 
> Hi Doug and Daisy! 
> 
> Looks like we have wrong pluralities in current release:
> in https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/
> openstack_dashboard/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/django.po
> 
> we have: 
> "Plural-Forms: nplurals=4; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && 
n"
> "%10<=4 && (n%100<12 || n%100>14) ? 1 : n%10==0 || (n%10>=5 && n%10<=9) 
|| (n"
> "%100>=11 && n%100<=14)? 2 : 3);\n"
> 
> but in previuos releses we have:
> "Plural-Forms: nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%
> 10>=2 && n%10<=4 && (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);\n"
> 
> Last one is right for Russian.
> 
> We can make translation in Zanata for 4 pluralities, but it can give
> in some cases bugs with wrong plural forms.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Ilya Alekseyev.
> 
> 2015-09-22 14:22 GMT+03:00 Douglas Fish <drfish at us.ibm.com>: 
> Hi Daisy,
> 
> I am certain this issue is caused by plural forms. The issue with 
> missing menus is seen with the current 4 plural form translations; 
> when I correct the PO file to have 3 forms Horizon properly displaysthe 
menus.
> 
> Doug 
> 
> 
> ----- Original message -----
> From: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM
> To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS@IBMAU
> Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> Date: Tue, Sep 22, 2015 12:49 AM
> 
> Hi, Doug
> 
> We need to consider it carefully.
> 
> After working with Zanata dev team, I got to understand:
> 
> 1. Zanata has its own plural forms. If po file has its own plural 
> form, Zanata will use that. 
> Otherwise, Zanata will use its own plural form. Pluralforms in Zanata:
> nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 &&
> (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2).
> So it looks like that OpenStack po files overrode the pluralforms in 
Zanata.
> 
> 2. Zanata currently don't allow update of plural forms once the 
> document has been uploaded to Zanata. 
> Even with deletion of that source document and re-upload (in the 
> same project-version, same doc name and same path), 
> Zanata will still reuse the old pluralform.
> 
> 3. If we want to update the pluralforms, we will need to do it in 
> new project-version 
> (don't use copy-from previous version function).
> 
> I think we need to carefully design the steps to change pluralforms 
> of Russian.
> At first, I want to confirm with you, are you sure this issue is 
> caused by plural forms?
> 
> Best regards
> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> 
> 
> Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM wrote on 2015/09/18 23:38:22:
> 
> > From: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > To: guoyingc at cn.ibm.com
> > Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > Date: 2015/09/18 23:38
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > 
> > Hi Daisy,
> > 
> > Yes, I understand - I don't think I can even propose my branch
> > unless I am added as a translator by the Russian team.
> > 
> > My proposal would include removing one plural form for
> > 4 messages in horizon django.po
> > 1 message in horizon djangojs.po
> > 144 messages in openstack_dashboard django.po
> > 0 messages in openstack_dashboard djangojs.po
> > plus the pluralization specification would be updated in all 4 files.
> > 
> > Doug 
> > 
> > ----- Original message -----
> > From: Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>
> > To: Douglas Fish/Rochester/IBM at IBMUS
> > Cc: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > Date: Fri, Sep 18, 2015 3:25 AM
> > 
> > Are there a lot of changes in your proposed po files ?
> > I'm still waiting for Russian team's response.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
> >
> >
> > "Douglas Fish" <drfish at us.ibm.com> wrote on 09/18/2015 05:37:07 AM:
> >
> > > From: "Douglas Fish" <drfish at us.ibm.com>
> > > To: openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
> > > Date: 09/18/2015 05:38 AM
> > > Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Would like Zanata branch to correct 
1494819
> > > 
> > > Hi translation friends,
> > > 
> > > I'd like to contribute 4 PO files for the Horizon Russian
> > > translation to correct the issue
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1494819
> > > 
> > > These uploads won't contain any new translations, but instead will
> > > be an adjustment to the PO files so they have 3 pluralities, which
> > is standard
> > > 
http://localization-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/l10n/pluralforms.html
> > > 
> > > Specifically, I plan to remove the msgstr[2] translation from the
> > > files (because msgstr[2] is blank for many cases), rename the msgstr
> > > [3] translation to msgstr[2] and adjust the plurality specification 
to
> > > nplurals=3; plural=(n%10==1 && n%100!=11 ? 0 : n%10>=2 && n%10<=4 &&
> > > (n%100<10 || n%100>=20) ? 1 : 2);
> > > 
> > > As discussed in the team meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/
> > > meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2015/openstack_i18n_meeting.
> > > 2015-09-17-13.00.log.html
> > > please create a Zanata branch so I can propose these corrections
> for review.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
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