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First off let me say that I am not an advocate of any one tool over
another, none of the tools is perfect, and many are pretty horrible.

Ideally I would like to be in a situation that as a contributor I have a
set of explicit guidelines and recommended tools that I can choose from to
contribute in the most effective and efficient way for me.

To play devils advocate here, I don't believe that we can or should dictate
tooling, but we can provide explicit style guidelines.

Thanks
Shaun

On Friday, May 13, 2016, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think draw.io is one of the stronger plays, but has some of the same
> limitations as other online tools.
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Nate Archer <Nate.Archer at rackspace.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Nate.Archer at rackspace.com');>> wrote:
>
>> What is everyone’s thoughts on Draw.io <https://www.draw.io/>? I’ve used
>> in the past and while the toolset is somewhat limited, it has the ability
>> to save and open editable SVG’s, as well as the ability to export the
>> diagram as a PNG file.
>>
>> Downside is when you open an SVG file in Draw.io that has been created in
>> another tool, certain elements of the illustration might not show up. This
>> problem is mitigated if you use Draw.io exclusively, as with any software.
>>
>> As Darren and Matt have pointed out, Inkscape is cumbersome to use, and
>> has many of the same problems as Draw.io, without any of the strengths.
>>
>> -Nate
>>
>> From: Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mkassawara at gmail.com');>>
>> Date: Friday, May 13, 2016 at 7:36 AM
>> To: Christian Berendt <christian at berendt.io
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christian at berendt.io');>>
>> Cc: Olga Gusarenko <ogusarenko at mirantis.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ogusarenko at mirantis.com');>>, Shaun OMeara
>> <shaun at omeara.co.za <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shaun at omeara.co.za');>>,
>> "someara at mirantis.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','someara at mirantis.com');>" <
>> someara at mirantis.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','someara at mirantis.com');>>, "
>> openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org');>" <
>> openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org');>>,
>> Rackspace Hosting <Nate.Archer at rackspace.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Nate.Archer at rackspace.com');>>, Darren
>> Chan <darren.chan at RACKSPACE.COM
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','darren.chan at RACKSPACE.COM');>>
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack-docs] Diagram recommendations for Openstack
>> Contributor Guides
>>
>> If you contribute diagrams, you'll quickly figure out that Inkscape is
>> difficult to use and produces rough content at best. If we want OpenStack
>> to appear more professional and less like a science experiment to our
>> increasingly less technical (read: decision makers) audience, we have to
>> use a tool that creates professional looking content. Some of the online
>> tools are surprisingly decent, so I wouldn't rule them out. Unfortunately,
>> regardless of what we use, we're never going to have standardized SVGs that
>> any online or installed tools can consistently parse.
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Christian Berendt <christian at berendt.io
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','christian at berendt.io');>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 May 2016 at 10:34:48, Shaun OMeara (shaun at omeara.co.za
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shaun at omeara.co.za');>) wrote:
>>> > > Opensource
>>>
>>> With this requirement we are only able to use Inkscape, it is the only
>>> listed open source software.
>>>
>>> Omnigraffle, DrawSVG, and Lucidchart are not open sourced.
>>>
>>> I would prefer to not rely on hosted services like Lucidchart and
>>> DrawSVG. This way we are depending on the availability of a 3rd party
>>> service provider.
>>>
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christian Berendt
>>>
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>>
>

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