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Looks like HAProxy and other pieces that are sold separately or trademarked
should follow their own standard for capitalization (per IBM style guide
again).

Thanks for the support, Meg :) Funny enough I thought this was going to be
more of a case where most everyone had shifted to using the initial
uppercase and the Conventions page just hadn't been updated to reflect it.
Sorry to be putting a ripple in the pond.

Given that it goes against general usage and most style guides, it would
beneficial to know why the proper noun is being lowercased. I get the need
to avoid making Everything Look Important, and wholeheartedly agree, but
this is specifically for one small set of names. OpenStack gets two
capitalizations, the projects functional names and all the releases have a
initial one. We clearly didn't disapprove of them in general, so why here?

Side note: Since we have a rule for sentence capitalization for headings,
would it be okay for me to add that to the Conventions page? I don't see
any mention of it.

Thanks,
Amanda

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Meg McRoberts <dreidellhasa at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> I'll go along with the wishes of the majority but I do agree with Amanda
> here, that capitalizing the names of the projects
> would make both the writing and the reading easier.
>
> What about services that are not projects per se, such as HAProxy, MySQL,
> MongoDB, Pacemaker, Corosync...?  Some of these exist
> outside the OpenStack world and everyone is used to them being capitalized
> in a certain way.  But it seems quite awkward
> to capitalize these when services that are projects are not capitalized.
>
> I just went through a piece of doc and changed HAProxy to haproxy.  The
> title of the section is "HAProxy nodes" so I had to
> make that "Haproxy nodes" to conform to the standard for capitalization in
> headers.  I suppose I could rewrite it to be "The haproxy nodes"
> but I would much prefer to have the keyword begin the header.
>
> As I said, I'll go along but Amanda deserves a little support ;-)
> meg
>
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>  *From:* Anne Gentle <annegentle at justwriteclick.com>
> *To:* APlimpton <aplimpton at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* "openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org" <
> openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack-docs] Style Question for Project Names
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:36 PM, APlimpton <aplimpton at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see several people are fine with how the convention is and would prefer
> for it to remain as is because they do not see a need for the change.
>
> Because I do see a need, the burden is on me to further explain what I’m
> seeing and why it suggests that using a capital letter with the project
> names is needed.
>
> When I say inconsistencies I mean that a handful of the OpenStack
> documentation manuals and a few wiki pages use the lowercase. On all other
> guides, references, manuals, websites, pages, blogs and various other
> communications the capitalized letter is used by the community (OpenStack
> and general). This strong majority of people using the capitalized version
> indicates that there has been a shift in the usage and we should update our
> convention accordingly.
>
> This is supported by the fact that these project names are names/proper
> nouns and as such should be capitalized. Having the release code names
> capitalized but not the project code names is inconsistent. If the name is
> to be a proper noun w/ all lowercase then all sentences that start with the
> project name will need to be reworded (source: IBM Style Guide used per the
> Conventions wiki page).
>
> An additional benefit to using the initial uppercase with project names is
> that it helps reduce confusion. Each project uses the project name three
> distinct ways with the exact same case. The project name, the CLI name and
> the command that is used. For example: nova, nova, nova. As a component of
> the project, the CLI name and the command should be lowercase (source: IBM
> Style Guide). Using a capitalized letter with the project name immediately
> distinguishes it as being not the project component and helps make sentence
> creation and updating less convoluted.
>
> If this makes sense to most of you and the consensus is reached to change
> to the initial uppercase I will be happy to find and make those changes. If
> the consensus is to keep it all lowercase then I’ll go ahead and attempt
> correction for the majority of docs, which will take a little longer. If
> keeping all lowercase, it may also be a good idea to remind the other
> contributors about the conventions page so they will be aware in the
> future. Either way I am believer in consistency and clarity. :)
>
>
> Agreed. Thanks for bringing the issue forward. Even when writing a blog
> post for the Rackspace blog two weeks ago, I had two editors tell me to
> capitalize the project/team name. However they were fine with lowercase
> once I pointed out our conventions. We have the power to enforce lowercase
> so why not put your energy towards the lowercase preference that we've had
> for years?
>
> One rule we have for simplicity's sake is to use sentence case for all
> titles, and the reasoning behind this is that it's fewer rules to explain
> and enforce (plus there are two competing Title Case styles from certain
> references). I sense we have the same simplicity goal with "always lower
> case project names" because once people start uppercasing what they think
> is Important then Everything Is Important if you Know what I Mean. :)
>
> I'd ask you to activate towards lowercase and help enforce that as
> standard rather than advocating for Upper Case All the Time.
>
> Really though, I said I'd get out of the way on this one. Hope my
> reasoning makes sense.
> Anne
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Amanda
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Shilla Saebi <shilla.saebi at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 29, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Christian Berendt <christian at berendt.io>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 05/29/2015 09:40 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> We're following the current convention for some time already and I see
> >> no reason to change, let's keep the current convention. If there're
> >> problems, let's fix them...
> >
> > +1
> >
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