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I tested everything but swift, ceilometer, trove, and sahara on CentOS 7
and will develop a patch tomorrow for a handful of minor RDO issues plus a
few other things.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I checked the RDO repository almost every day since release and didn't see
> release packages until the e-mail announcement. Maybe they weren't publicly
> visible? Anyway, given at least four installation permutations with RDO
> packages, I would appreciate any help testing the installation guide as
> soon as packages become available for a particular release. With any luck,
> we can reduce the delay between official release and a stable installation
> guide.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Steve Gordon <sgordon at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon at redhat.com>
>> >
>> > Several of the core service packages skipped RC1 and went from
>> milestone 3
>> > to RC2. I generally avoid mixing packages with a difference of more than
>> > one milestone/RC version... especially milestones given significant
>> changes
>> > to the services.
>>
>> I understand that practice when it comes to the milestone builds, but I
>> don't think it really makes sense when it comes to the RCs. Either way, we
>> had packaged builds of the final release available on the 22nd/23rd. This
>> probably went under the radar as we held off on the formal announcement,
>> but nobody asked me about it so I didn't realize that the formal email was
>> a blocker for docs.
>>
>> > P.S. - Does anyone from RH work on the installation guide these days?
>>
>> Deepti is available to work on upstream guides, I think when she had
>> discussed priorities with Anne the main ones that came up were identity
>> federation and some other keystone issues that she has been trying to work
>> on. If you need assistance feel free to ask her for help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Steve Gordon <sgordon at redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon at redhat.com>
>> > > > To: "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com>
>> > > > > To: "Steve Gordon" <sgordon at redhat.com>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > While OpenStack RC code often sufficiently tests services,
>> packaging
>> > > > > concerns such as dependencies and default configuration options
>> tend
>> > > to lag
>> > > > > by one or more milestone/RC cycles. The RDO repository only
>> contained
>> > > > > milestone 3 packages until just prior to the official release of
>> Juno
>> > > when
>> > > > > RC2 packages appeared in it.
>> > > >
>> > > > RC2 tarballs themselves only became available just prior to the
>> official
>> > > > release (e.g. Oct 9th for Cinder, Oct 10th for Neutron) and were
>> put into
>> > > > the repo on the 13th. The gap between RC1 tarballs being available
>> and
>> > > being
>> > > > put in the repo was similar.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Testing packages (even just the core services), writing patches,
>> > > reviewing
>> > > > > patches, and general time allocation
>> > > > > issues can delay a functional installation guide by a week or more
>> > > beyond
>> > > > > the package release date. Furthermore, the RDO packages require
>> > > testing on
>> > > > > RHEL/CentOS and Fedora plus the neutron and nova-network
>> variations. I
>> > > > > would like to provide users with a mostly functional installation
>> > > guide on
>> > > > > the official release date which would require availability of at
>> least
>> > > RC
>> > > > > packages at least one week prior to the official release date.
>> > > > > release packages becoming available yesterday afternoon and the
>> plan
>> > > to cut
>> > > > > juno/stable for openstack-manuals tomorrow gives us about one day
>> to
>> > > > > install the packages on two distributions each with two variants,
>> > > determine
>> > > > > the issues, write patches, test them, and run them through the
>> review
>> > > > > process before all changes involve backports.
>> > > >
>> > > > As a result of user feedback from previous test days we stage and
>> test
>> > > the
>> > > > RDO packages to ensure basic sanity before putting them into the
>> repo,
>> > > this
>> > > > takes time but ensures that we have at least some level of
>> confidence in
>> > > the
>> > > > packages being deployed and avoids user frustration caused by basic
>> > > issues
>> > > > that can be easily prevented. If you wish to access the staged
>> packages
>> > > in
>> > > > future while they are still undergoing testing, just ask (they are
>> > > public,
>> > > > just not in the main repo).
>> > >
>> > > Going back through the repo [1] we pushed builds based on the final
>> > > release into the repo on the 22nd/23rd and held off formally
>> announcing
>> > > while we fixed a few more bugs over the weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Steve
>> > >
>> > > [1]
>> > >
>> https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-juno/epel-7/?C=M;O=A
>> > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Steve Gordon <sgordon at redhat.com
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > > From: "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > To: "Anne Gentle" <anne at openstack.org>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > If other reasons (outside of the installation guide) exist to
>> move
>> > > it
>> > > > > > > on
>> > > > > > > the 29th rather than wait until after the summit, I can
>> deal... but
>> > > > > > > backporting patches for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora will take more
>> time and
>> > > > > > effort.
>> > > > > > > Not our fault RDO can't push release packages out in a
>> reasonable
>> > > > > > > amount
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > time.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Can you elaborate on what's reasonable so we can endeavour to
>> > > accommodate
>> > > > > > in future? Our aim this time around was for +2 weeks on upstream
>> > > release
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > allow some level of smoke testing to occur, despite that M-3
>> and RC
>> > > > > > packages that could have been used were available leading up to
>> this.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > We've been communicating this to users @
>> > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/rdo-list/
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Steve
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Anne Gentle <
>> anne at openstack.org>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Matt Kassawara
>> > > > > > > > <mkassawara at gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >> The RDO Juno release packages for RHEL/CentOS/Fedora only
>> became
>> > > > > > > >> available today [1] which leaves very little time for
>> testing
>> > > and
>> > > > > > patching
>> > > > > > > >> the installation guide prior to cutting juno/stable for
>> > > > > > openstack-manuals
>> > > > > > > >> on the 29th. Can we push it out a day or two?
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > I think if we don't do the 29th it'll be after Nov 7th due
>> to
>> > > > > > > > Andreas's
>> > > > > > > > and my travel schedules, is that an okay solution?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >> [1]
>> > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > >
>> https://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/992/rdo-juno-packages-available
>> > > > > > > >>
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>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Steve Gordon, RHCE
>> > > > > > Sr. Technical Product Manager,
>> > > > > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform
>> > > > > >
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>> > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform
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>> Steve Gordon, RHCE
>> Sr. Technical Product Manager,
>> Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform
>>
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