[Openstack-docs] Poll: What should the fate of the OVS section of the install guide be?

Edgar Magana Perdomo (eperdomo) eperdomo at cisco.com
Thu Apr 17 15:41:24 UTC 2014


All those instructions should be removed from the Docs.
I will totally help to move anyone to ML2 instead of OVS or LinuxBridge.

I do support to remove the code totally.

Edgar

From: Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org<mailto:anne at openstack.org>>
Date: Thursday, April 17, 2014 at 7:56 AM
To: Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com<mailto:mkassawara at gmail.com>>
Cc: "openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org>" <openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org>>
Subject: Re: [Openstack-docs] Poll: What should the fate of the OVS section of the install guide be?




On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com<mailto:mkassawara at gmail.com>> wrote:
Shall I do the honors to remove it?


Let's leave the poll open overnight in case there's something we haven't thought of -- and log a bug "Remove OVS from Install Guides" tagged icehouse. Seems like the evidence is there to remove though.

Good thing we didn't have to cut a stable branch today. :)

Anne


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com<mailto:nchase at mirantis.com>> wrote:

We'd originally kept it in because it didn't look like it would be deprecated.   Now that it is I agree it should be dropped now that ML2 works.

---- Nick

On Apr 17, 2014 10:03 AM, "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com<mailto:mkassawara at gmail.com>> wrote:
Also, Phil Hopkins just pointed out the Icehouse Neutron release notes to me.

https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse#OpenStack_Network_Service_.28Neutron.29

In particular...

"The OVS plugin and Linux Bridge plugin are deprecated and should not be used for deployments. The ML2 plugin combines OVS and Linux Bridge support into one plugin. A migration script has been provided for Havana deployments looking to convert to ML2. The migration does not have a rollback capability, so it is recommended the migration be tested on a copy of the database prior to running on a live system."


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com<mailto:mkassawara at gmail.com>> wrote:
Those who responded to the earlier thread want to keep only ML2. Before deciding what to do with OVS, we need to consider the following questions:

1) Should any new installations use OVS instead of ML2?
2) Will Juno deprecate OVS?

I don't mind updating the OVS sections and testing them on at least a handful of the most common distributions, but the process will take a significant amount of time and effort perhaps better spent working on more relevant parts of the installation guide.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org<mailto:anne at openstack.org>> wrote:



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org<mailto:tom at openstack.org>> wrote:
On 17/04/14 13:40, Steve Gordon wrote:
----- Original Message -----
Poll here:

http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/jasatw/what-should-we-do-with-ovs


We have two plugins in the neutron section of the install guide: ML2 and
OpenvSwitch.

Of these, ML2 has been extensively reworked and tested (it's pretty).
OpenVswitch "may" also work, but has been deprecated for future use.

Please vote on the poll as to what should happen to the OpenvSwitch
section :)


Regards,

Tom

Where is the leave it how it is option (which I thought we had already reached agreement on)?

Sorry - option added.

Personally, I think leaving something in that doesn't meet the quality bar we set by testing everything else in the guide is a bad idea. Especially when there is a good alternative, that significant time has been put into, and is likely a better option for users long-term.


This feels awfully late for a decision.

The previous thread is here from April 3 though:

http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-April/004204.html

I sense the decision then was to ensure ML2 works, and OVS clean up could occur later. Matt, do you recall any other discussions?

Anne

Regards,


Tom



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