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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com>wrote:

> Shall I do the honors to remove it?
>
>
Let's leave the poll open overnight in case there's something we haven't
thought of -- and log a bug "Remove OVS from Install Guides" tagged
icehouse. Seems like the evidence is there to remove though.

Good thing we didn't have to cut a stable branch today. :)

Anne


>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Nick Chase <nchase at mirantis.com> wrote:
>
>> We'd originally kept it in because it didn't look like it would be
>> deprecated.   Now that it is I agree it should be dropped now that ML2
>> works.
>>
>> ---- Nick
>> On Apr 17, 2014 10:03 AM, "Matt Kassawara" <mkassawara at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, Phil Hopkins just pointed out the Icehouse Neutron release notes
>>> to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Icehouse#OpenStack_Network_Service_.28Neutron.29
>>>
>>> In particular...
>>>
>>> "The OVS plugin and Linux Bridge plugin are deprecated and should not be
>>> used for deployments. The ML2 plugin combines OVS and Linux Bridge support
>>> into one plugin. A migration script has been provided for Havana
>>> deployments looking to convert to ML2. The migration does not have a
>>> rollback capability, so it is recommended the migration be tested on a copy
>>> of the database prior to running on a live system."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Matt Kassawara <mkassawara at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Those who responded to the earlier thread want to keep only ML2. Before
>>>> deciding what to do with OVS, we need to consider the following questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Should any new installations use OVS instead of ML2?
>>>> 2) Will Juno deprecate OVS?
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind updating the OVS sections and testing them on at least a
>>>> handful of the most common distributions, but the process will take a
>>>> significant amount of time and effort perhaps better spent working on more
>>>> relevant parts of the installation guide.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/04/14 13:40, Steve Gordon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Poll here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/jasatw/what-should-we-do-with-ovs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have two plugins in the neutron section of the install guide:
>>>>>>>> ML2 and
>>>>>>>> OpenvSwitch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of these, ML2 has been extensively reworked and tested (it's
>>>>>>>> pretty).
>>>>>>>> OpenVswitch "may" also work, but has been deprecated for future use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please vote on the poll as to what should happen to the OpenvSwitch
>>>>>>>> section :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where is the leave it how it is option (which I thought we had
>>>>>>> already reached agreement on)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry - option added.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, I think leaving something in that doesn't meet the
>>>>>> quality bar we set by testing everything else in the guide is a bad idea.
>>>>>> Especially when there is a good alternative, that significant time has been
>>>>>> put into, and is likely a better option for users long-term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> This feels awfully late for a decision.
>>>>>
>>>>> The previous thread is here from April 3 though:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2014-April/004204.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I sense the decision then was to ensure ML2 works, and OVS clean up
>>>>> could occur later. Matt, do you recall any other discussions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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