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No, just what I know from Red Hat. Looks like Tom said that Ubuntu would 
have different values, but I don't know what those are. Is there a 
Ubuntu contributor here?

cheers, Summer

Summer Long
OpenStack Documentation
Engineering Content Services

Red Hat Asia Pacific
Brisbane, Australia
slong at redhat.com <mailto:slong at redhat.com>

On 08/09/2013 08:59 AM, Nermina Miller wrote:
> No problem, Summer. Would be happy too! Is all of the info included in 
> the initial email? Thanks! - Nermina
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Summer Long <slong at redhat.com 
> <mailto:slong at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     Interesting, Anne, that closely matches what I put together for
>     the Red Hat general introduction (included in all the guides so
>     far). I like the additional 'why cloud' and 'logical architecture'
>     sections.
>
>     Question, is that only included in the Installation Guide? I'd
>     sent our introduction over to Shaun McCance,  via Tom, for review
>     towards possibly including in all intro-type docs. Obviously, that
>     doesn't need to be done if the Getting Started intro can be used
>     across other docs.
>
>     Nermina, are you ok with coming up with a distribution-dependant
>     table, in case that's necessary (per Tom, sounds like it is)?
>
>     :>
>
>     Summer
>
>
>     Summer Long
>     OpenStack Documentation
>     Engineering Content Services
>
>     Red Hat Asia Pacific
>     Brisbane, Australia
>     slong at redhat.com <mailto:slong at redhat.com>
>
>     On 08/09/2013 01:14 AM, Nermina Miller wrote:
>>     No problem, then ;)
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Anne Gentle
>>     <annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>>     <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Sure, but realize that with git-based work, it merges in, and
>>         if it can't resolve the merge, a human makes sure it all
>>         works together still. So we don't have to "lock" any given
>>         file. Which to me is full of win!
>>
>>         Anne
>>
>>
>>         On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Nermina Miller
>>         <nerminamiller at gmail.com <mailto:nerminamiller at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Anne and Summer,
>>
>>             Since I'm working on the rewrite of Getting Started,
>>             should we wait till that process is done to make these
>>             edits? I have Mirantis SMEs looking at it and I'm
>>             updating simultaneously.
>>
>>             Thank you both!
>>
>>             Nermina
>>
>>
>>             On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Anne Gentle
>>             <annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>>             <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 A while back I fixed this bug:
>>                 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1160757
>>                 with this patch:
>>                 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26950/3/doc/src/docbkx/common/getstart.xml
>>                 Which offered a lot more explanation of services,
>>                 daemons, and so forth. The file I updated is
>>                 common/getstart.xml. I think this info can go there.
>>                 Since it's reused many places, do not use conditional
>>                 markup in that file.
>>
>>                 Anne
>>
>>
>>                 On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Summer Long
>>                 <slong at redhat.com <mailto:slong at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Hi Tom,
>>                     Yes, I can see your point. Am just thinking about
>>                     whether folks will find it if they are not in the
>>                     middle of an OpenStack install?
>>
>>                     Are all of the values really distribution
>>                     dependant? If so, and if the installation really
>>                     is the better place, then putting them into
>>                     distribution Installation guides probably would
>>                     work better.
>>
>>                     Other opinions?
>>
>>                     cheers, Summer
>>
>>                     Summer Long
>>                     OpenStack Documentation
>>                     Engineering Content Services
>>
>>                     Red Hat Asia Pacific
>>                     Brisbane, Australia
>>                     slong at redhat.com <mailto:slong at redhat.com>
>>
>>                     On 08/08/2013 09:58 AM, Tom Fifield wrote:
>>>                     Hmm, nice one!
>>>
>>>                     My initial impression is that this information is most useful to users
>>>                     on installation (planning systems), rather than post-install
>>>                     'fixing'/configuration.
>>>
>>>                     It's also raised some interesting questions in my mind about whether the
>>>                     configuration reference is distribution agnostic - since uid/gids are
>>>                     different between RHEL and ubuntu if I remember correctly. My feeling is
>>>                     that to be more low maintenance (which was one of the driving factors in
>>>                     the creation of the config reference), we probably want it to be "just
>>>                     about OpenStack", rather than doing conditional formatting for
>>>                     rhel/ubuntu/suse etc. However, I also have the feeling that we'll end up
>>>                     with more of these situations and I'll break down :)
>>>
>>>                     Can we move this discussion to the mailing list?
>>>
>>>                     Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>                     Tom
>>>
>>>                     On 08/08/13 07:22, Summer Long wrote:
>>>>                     Hi Tom,
>>>>                     I just got a request to put the reserved uids/guids used by OpenStack
>>>>                     somewhere in the documentation. So that configurers can know what
>>>>                     products pull in which uid/gids/software, and also in case they are
>>>>                     assigning uids/gids to other third-party software or systems.
>>>>
>>>>                     It feels like the Configuration Reference is the right place. Have you
>>>>                     had any requests for these?
>>>>                     For example:
>>>>
>>>>                     keystone:x:163:163:OpenStack Keystone Daemons:/var/lib/keystone:sbin/nologin
>>>>                     glance:x:161:161:OpenStack Glance Daemons:/var/lib/glance:/sbin/nologin
>>>>                     cinder:x:165:165:OpenStack Cinder Daemons:/var/lib/cinder:/sbin/nologin
>>>>                     nova:x:162:162:OpenStack Nova Daemons:/var/lib/nova:/sbin/nologin
>>>>
>>>>                     Plus neutron, swift, ceilometer, heat?
>>>>
>>>>                     And if we're including info for third-party glue, then possibly:
>>>>
>>>>                     mysql:x:27:27:MySQL Server:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/bash
>>>>                     qpidd:x:498:499:Owner of Qpidd Daemons:/var/lib/qpidd:/sbin/nologin
>>>>                     nagios:x:496:495::/var/spool/nagios:/sbin/nologin
>>>>
>>>>                     What do you think?
>>>>                     thanks, Summer
>>>>                     -- 
>>>>                     Summer Long
>>>>                     OpenStack Documentation
>>>>                     Engineering Content Services
>>>>
>>>>                     Red Hat Asia Pacific
>>>>                     Brisbane, Australia
>>>>                     slong at redhat.com  <mailto:slong at redhat.com>  <mailto:slong at redhat.com>  <mailto:slong at redhat.com>
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>>             -- 
>>             Thank you!
>>
>>             Nermina Miller
>>             Tech Writer and Editor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Anne Gentle
>>         annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>>         <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>
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>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Thank you!
>>
>>     Nermina Miller
>>     Tech Writer and Editor
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> Nermina Miller
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