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No, just what I know from Red Hat. Looks like Tom said that Ubuntu
would have different values, but I don't know what those are. Is
there a Ubuntu contributor here?<br>
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cheers, Summer<br>
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<div><font color="#666666">Summer Long<br>
OpenStack Documentation<br>
Engineering Content Services<br>
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Red Hat Asia Pacific<br>
Brisbane, Australia</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/09/2013 08:59 AM, Nermina
Miller wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No problem, Summer. Would be happy too! Is all of
the info included in the initial email? Thanks! - Nermina</div>
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Long <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:slong@redhat.com" target="_blank">slong@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Interesting, Anne,
that closely matches what I put together for the Red Hat
general introduction (included in all the guides so far).
I like the additional 'why cloud' and 'logical
architecture' sections. <br>
<br>
Question, is that only included in the Installation Guide?
I'd sent our introduction over to Shaun McCance, via Tom,
for review towards possibly including in all intro-type
docs. Obviously, that doesn't need to be done if the
Getting Started intro can be used across other docs.<br>
<br>
Nermina, are you ok with coming up with a
distribution-dependant table, in case that's necessary
(per Tom, sounds like it is)?<br>
<br>
:>
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Summer<br>
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<div><font color="#666666">Summer Long<br>
OpenStack Documentation<br>
Engineering Content Services<br>
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Red Hat Asia Pacific<br>
Brisbane, Australia</font><br>
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<div>On 08/09/2013 01:14 AM, Nermina Miller wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No problem, then ;)</div>
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11:08 AM, Anne Gentle <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">Sure, but realize that with
git-based work, it merges in, and if it
can't resolve the merge, a human makes sure
it all works together still. So we don't
have to "lock" any given file. Which to me
is full of win!
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<div dir="ltr">Anne and Summer,
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<div>Since I'm working on the
rewrite of Getting Started,
should we wait till that process
is done to make these edits? I
have Mirantis SMEs looking at it
and I'm updating simultaneously.</div>
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<div>Thank you both!</div>
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<div>Nermina</div>
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<div>On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:00
AM, Anne Gentle <span
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<div dir="ltr">A while
back I fixed this bug:
<div><a
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href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1160757"
target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1160757</a><br>
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<div>with this patch:</div>
<div><a
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href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26950/3/doc/src/docbkx/common/getstart.xml"
target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/26950/3/doc/src/docbkx/common/getstart.xml</a><br>
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<div>Which offered a lot
more explanation of
services, daemons, and
so forth. The file I
updated is
common/getstart.xml. I
think this info can go
there. Since it's
reused many places, do
not use conditional
markup in that file. </div>
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<div>Anne</div>
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2013 at 7:14 PM,
Summer Long <span
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text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Tom,<br>
Yes, I can see
your point. Am
just thinking
about whether
folks will
find it if
they are not
in the middle
of an
OpenStack
install? <br>
<br>
Are all of the
values really
distribution
dependant? If
so, and if the
installation
really is the
better place,
then putting
them into
distribution
Installation
guides
probably would
work better. <br>
<br>
Other
opinions?<br>
<br>
cheers, Summer<br>
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08/08/2013
09:58 AM, Tom
Fifield wrote:<br>
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<pre>Hmm, nice one!
My initial impression is that this information is most useful to users
on installation (planning systems), rather than post-install
'fixing'/configuration.
It's also raised some interesting questions in my mind about whether the
configuration reference is distribution agnostic - since uid/gids are
different between RHEL and ubuntu if I remember correctly. My feeling is
that to be more low maintenance (which was one of the driving factors in
the creation of the config reference), we probably want it to be "just
about OpenStack", rather than doing conditional formatting for
rhel/ubuntu/suse etc. However, I also have the feeling that we'll end up
with more of these situations and I'll break down :)
Can we move this discussion to the mailing list?
Regards,
Tom
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<pre>Hi Tom,
I just got a request to put the reserved uids/guids used by OpenStack
somewhere in the documentation. So that configurers can know what
products pull in which uid/gids/software, and also in case they are
assigning uids/gids to other third-party software or systems.
It feels like the Configuration Reference is the right place. Have you
had any requests for these?
For example:
keystone:x:163:163:OpenStack Keystone Daemons:/var/lib/keystone:sbin/nologin
glance:x:161:161:OpenStack Glance Daemons:/var/lib/glance:/sbin/nologin
cinder:x:165:165:OpenStack Cinder Daemons:/var/lib/cinder:/sbin/nologin
nova:x:162:162:OpenStack Nova Daemons:/var/lib/nova:/sbin/nologin
Plus neutron, swift, ceilometer, heat?
And if we're including info for third-party glue, then possibly:
mysql:x:27:27:MySQL Server:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/bash
qpidd:x:498:499:Owner of Qpidd Daemons:/var/lib/qpidd:/sbin/nologin
nagios:x:496:495::/var/spool/nagios:/sbin/nologin
What do you think?
thanks, Summer
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