[kolla] Plan to deprecate binary and unify on single distrubition

Tobias Urdin tobias.urdin at binero.com
Fri Nov 19 15:22:08 UTC 2021


Interesting.

This is probably a little bit off-topic but I find it very interesting that a majority of all the big
OpenStack clouds out there is running on containers based and a lot of them using “LOKI”
that was talked about so much in the OpenInfra Live Keynotes.

What I don’t understand is that, with all these limited resources, there is no joint effort
in the OpenStack ecosystem to solve the container deliverables issue and then just
have all deployments/tooling use the same.

Maybe that what they are doing though, using Kolla images… but then, wouldn’t they contribute more
and the below not be a problem *makes me wonder*

Sorry for off-topic loud thinking.

Best regards
Tobias 

> On 18 Nov 2021, at 13:33, Michał Nasiadka <mnasiadka at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Koalas,
> 
> On the PTG we have discussed two topics:
> 
> 1) Deprecate and drop binary type of Kolla images
> 2) Use a common base (single Linux distribution) for Kolla images
> 
> This is a call for feedback - for people that have not been attending the PTG.
> 
> What this essentially mean for consumers:
> 
> 1) In Yoga cycle we will deprecate binary type of Kolla images, and in Z cycle those will be dropped.
> 2) We are not going to support CentOS Stream 9 (cs9) as a base operating system, and the source type build will rely on CentOS Stream 8 in Z release.
> 3) Beginning from A release Kolla will build only Debian source images - but Kolla-Ansible will still support deployment of those images on CentOS/Ubuntu/Debian Host operating systems (and Rocky Linux to be added in Yoga to that mix).
> 
> Justification:
> The Kolla project team is limited in numbers, therefore supporting current broad mix of operating systems (especially with CentOS Stream 9 ,,on the way’’) is a significant maintenance burden.
> By dropping binary type of images - users would be running more tested images (since Kolla/Kolla-Ansible CI runs source images jobs as voting).
> In Xena we’ve already changed the default image type Kolla-Ansible uses to source.
> We also feel that using a unified base OS for Kolla container images is a way to remove some of the maintenance burden (including CI cycles and 
> 
> Request for feedback:
> If any of those changes is a no go from your perspective - we’d like to hear your opinions.
> 
> Best regards,
> Michal Nasiadka



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