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Also, to keep everyone on the same page, this topic was discussed in the
D&I WG meeting today for those interested[1]. Long story short, the
organizers of the mentoring cohort program are concerned that this might
take away from their efforts. We talked a little bit about who would be
making use of this list, how it should be formatted, how postings
enter/exit the list,etc.

-Kendall (diablo_rojo)

[1]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-02-11-17.02.log.html#l-62


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM Kendall Nelson <kennelson11 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:01 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> > Kendall Nelson <kennelson11 at gmail.com> writes:
>> >> [...]
>> >> So I think that the First Contact SIG project liaison list kind of fits
>> >> this. Its already maintained in a wiki and its already a list of people
>> >> willing to be contacted for helping people get started. It probably
>> just
>> >> needs more attention and refreshing. When it was first set up we (the
>> FC
>> >> SIG) kind of went around begging for volunteers and then once we
>> maxxed out
>> >> on them, we said those projects without volunteers will have the role
>> >> defaulted to the PTL unless they delegate (similar to how other liaison
>> >> roles work).
>> >>
>> >> Long story short, I think we have the sort of mentoring things
>> covered. And
>> >> to back up an earlier email, project specific onboarding would be a
>> good
>> >> help too.
>> >
>> > OK, that does sound pretty similar. I guess the piece that's missing is
>> > a description of the sort of help the team is interested in receiving.
>>
>> I guess the key difference is that the first contact list is more a
>> function of the team (who to contact for first contributions in this
>> team, defaults to PTL), rather than a distinct offer to do 1:1 mentoring
>> to cover specific needs in a team.
>>
>> It's probably pretty close (and the same people would likely be
>> involved), but I think an approach where specific people offer a
>> significant amount of their time to one mentee interested in joining a
>> team is a bit different. I don't think every team would have volunteers
>> to do that. I would not expect a mentor volunteer to care for several
>> mentees. In the end I think we would end up with a much shorter list
>> than the FC list.
>>
>
> I think our original ask for people volunteering (before we completed the
> list with PTLs as stand ins) was for people willing to help get started in
> a project and look after their first few patches. So I think that was kinda
> the mentoring role originally but then it evolved? Maybe Matt Oliver or
> Ghanshyam remember better than I do?
>
>
>>
>> Maybe the two efforts can converge into one, or they can be kept as two
>> different things but coordinated by the same team ?
>>
>>
> I think we could go either way, but that they both would live with the FC
> SIG. Seems like the most logical place to me. I lean towards two lists, one
> being a list of volunteer mentors for projects that are actively looking
> for new contributors (the shorter list) and the other being a list of
> people just willing to keep an eye out for the welcome new contributor
> patches and being the entry point for people asking about getting started
> that don't know anyone in the project yet (kind of what our current view
> is, I think).
>
>
>> --
>> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>>
>
> -Kendall (diablo_rojo)
>
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