<div dir="ltr">Also, to keep everyone on the same page, this topic was discussed in the D&I WG meeting today for those interested[1]. Long story short, the organizers of the mentoring cohort program are concerned that this might take away from their efforts. We talked a little bit about who would be making use of this list, how it should be formatted, how postings enter/exit the list,etc. <div><div><div><br></div><div>-Kendall (diablo_rojo)</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-02-11-17.02.log.html#l-62">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2019/diversity_wg.2019-02-11-17.02.log.html#l-62</a> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:14 AM Kendall Nelson <<a href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:01 AM Thierry Carrez <<a href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org" target="_blank">thierry@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Doug Hellmann wrote:<br>
> Kendall Nelson <<a href="mailto:kennelson11@gmail.com" target="_blank">kennelson11@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
>> [...]<br>
>> So I think that the First Contact SIG project liaison list kind of fits<br>
>> this. Its already maintained in a wiki and its already a list of people<br>
>> willing to be contacted for helping people get started. It probably just<br>
>> needs more attention and refreshing. When it was first set up we (the FC<br>
>> SIG) kind of went around begging for volunteers and then once we maxxed out<br>
>> on them, we said those projects without volunteers will have the role<br>
>> defaulted to the PTL unless they delegate (similar to how other liaison<br>
>> roles work).<br>
>><br>
>> Long story short, I think we have the sort of mentoring things covered. And<br>
>> to back up an earlier email, project specific onboarding would be a good<br>
>> help too.<br>
> <br>
> OK, that does sound pretty similar. I guess the piece that's missing is<br>
> a description of the sort of help the team is interested in receiving.<br>
<br>
I guess the key difference is that the first contact list is more a <br>
function of the team (who to contact for first contributions in this <br>
team, defaults to PTL), rather than a distinct offer to do 1:1 mentoring <br>
to cover specific needs in a team.<br>
<br>
It's probably pretty close (and the same people would likely be <br>
involved), but I think an approach where specific people offer a <br>
significant amount of their time to one mentee interested in joining a <br>
team is a bit different. I don't think every team would have volunteers <br>
to do that. I would not expect a mentor volunteer to care for several <br>
mentees. In the end I think we would end up with a much shorter list <br>
than the FC list.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I think our original ask for people volunteering (before we completed the list with PTLs as stand ins) was for people willing to help get started in a project and look after their first few patches. So I think that was kinda the mentoring role originally but then it evolved? Maybe Matt Oliver or Ghanshyam remember better than I do? </div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Maybe the two efforts can converge into one, or they can be kept as two <br>
different things but coordinated by the same team ?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>I think we could go either way, but that they both would live with the FC SIG. Seems like the most logical place to me. I lean towards two lists, one being a list of volunteer mentors for projects that are actively looking for new contributors (the shorter list) and the other being a list of people just willing to keep an eye out for the welcome new contributor patches and being the entry point for people asking about getting started that don't know anyone in the project yet (kind of what our current view is, I think).</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thierry Carrez (ttx)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>-Kendall (diablo_rojo) </div></div></div>
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