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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Honza Pokorny [mailto:honza at redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [E] [openstack-dev] [tripleo] quickstart for humans
> 
> Hello!
> 
> Over the last few months, it seems that tripleo-quickstart has evolved into a
> CI tool.  It's primarily used by computers, and not humans.
> tripleo-quickstart is a helpful set of ansible playbooks, and a collection of
> feature sets.  However, it's become less useful for setting up development
> environments by humans.  For example, devmode.sh was recently
> deprecated without a user-friendly replacement. Moreover, during some
> informal irc conversations in #oooq, some developers even mentioned the
> plan to merge tripleo-quickstart and tripleo-ci.
> 
> I think it would be beneficial to create a set of defaults for tripleo-quickstart
> that can be used to spin up new environments; a set of defaults for humans.
> This can either be a well-maintained script in tripleo-quickstart itself, or a
> brand new project, e.g.
> tripleo-quickstart-humans.  The number of settings, knobs, and flags should
> be kept to a minimum.
> 
> This would accomplish two goals:
> 
> 1.  It would bring uniformity to the team.  Each environment is
>     installed the same way.  When something goes wrong, we can
>     eliminate differences in setup when debugging.  This should save a
>     lot of time.
> 
> 2.  Quicker and more reliable environment setup.  If the set of defaults
>     is used by many people, it should container fewer bugs because more
>     people using something should translate into more bug reports, and
>     more bug fixes.
> 
> These thoughts are coming from the context of tripleo-ui development.  I
> need an environment in order to develop, but I don't necessarily always care
> about how it's installed.  I want something that works for most scenarios.
> 
> What do you think?  Does this make sense?  Does something like this already
> exist?
> 
> Thanks for listening!
> 
> Honza

What is the recommended way to bring up a small POC of TripleO outside of CI?

Documentation suggests using quickstart 

https://docs.openstack.org/tripleo-docs/latest/install/introduction/architecture.html

"For development or proof of concept (PoC) environments, Quickstart can also be used."

Quickstart.sh outside of CI has been broken for a while.
It requires zuul cloner to work.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1754498