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What about Rocket chat instead of Slack? It is open source.
https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat

Monty, what kind of evaluation would you guys need? I might be able to help.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:

> On 08/01/2018 07:44 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>
>> Excerpts from Andrey Kurilin's message of 2018-08-01 15:21:37 +0300:
>>
>>> ср, 1 авг. 2018 г. в 14:11, Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur at redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> On 08/01/2018 12:49 PM, Andrey Kurilin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Ian and stackers!
>>>>>
>>>>> ср, 1 авг. 2018 г. в 8:45, Ian Wienand <iwienand at redhat.com
>>>>> <mailto:iwienand at redhat.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>      It seems freenode is currently receiving a lot of unsolicited
>>>>> traffic
>>>>>      across all channels.  The freenode team are aware [1] and doing
>>>>> their
>>>>>      best.
>>>>>
>>>>>      There are not really a lot of options.  We can set "+r" on
>>>>> channels
>>>>>      which means only nickserv registered users can join channels.  We
>>>>>
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>>      traditionally avoided this, because it is yet one more barrier to
>>>>>      communication when many are already unfamiliar with IRC access.
>>>>>      However, having channels filled with irrelevant messages is also
>>>>> not
>>>>>      very accessible.
>>>>>
>>>>>      This is temporarily enabled in #openstack-infra for the time
>>>>> being,
>>>>>
>>>> so
>>>>
>>>>>      we can co-ordinate without interruption.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Thankfully AFAIK we have not needed an abuse policy on this
>>>>> before;
>>>>>      but I guess we are the point we need some sort of coordinated
>>>>>      response.
>>>>>
>>>>>      I'd suggest to start, people with an interest in a channel can
>>>>>
>>>> request
>>>>
>>>>>      +r from an IRC admin in #openstack-infra and we track it at [2]
>>>>>
>>>>>      Longer term ... suggestions welcome? :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Move to Slack? We can provide auto-sending to emails invitations for
>>>>>
>>>> joining by
>>>>
>>>>> clicking the button on some page at openstack.org <
>>>>> http://openstack.org>.
>>>>>
>>>> It
>>>>
>>>>> will not add more berrier for new contributors and, at the same time,
>>>>>
>>>> this way
>>>>
>>>>> will give some base filtering by emails at least.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A few potential barriers with slack or similar solutions: lack of FOSS
>>>> desktop
>>>> clients (correct me if I'm wrong),
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The second link from google search gives an opensource client written in
>>> python https://github.com/raelgc/scudcloud . Also, there is something
>>> which
>>> is written in golang.
>>>
>>> complete lack of any console clients (ditto),
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Again, google gives several ones as first results -
>>> https://github.com/evanyeung/terminal-slack
>>> https://github.com/erroneousboat/slack-term
>>>
>>> serious limits on free (as in beer) tariff plans.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can make an assumption that for marketing reasons, Slack Inc can
>>> propose
>>> extended Free plan.
>>> But anyway, even with default one the only thing which can limit us is
>>> `10,000 searchable messages` which is bigger than 0 (freenode doesn't
>>> store
>>> messages).
>>>
>>>
>>> Why I like slack? because a lot of people are familar with it (a lot of
>>> companies use it as like some opensource communities, like k8s )
>>>
>>> PS: I realize that OpenStack Community will never go away from Freenode
>>> and
>>> IRC, but I do not want to stay silent.
>>>
>>
>> We are unlikely to select slack because the platform itself is
>> proprietary, even if there are OSS clients. That said, there have
>> been some discussions about platforms such as Matrix, which is
>> similar to slack and also OSS.
>>
>> I think the main thing that is blocking any such move right now is
>> the fact that we're lacking someone with time to evaluate the tool
>> to see what it would take for us to run it. If you're interested in
>> this, maybe you can work with the infrastructure team to plan and
>> implement that evaluation?
>>
>
> In Vancouver I signed up to work on this - but so far it has been lower in
> priority than other tasks. I'll circle around with people today and see
> what we think about relative priorities.
>
> That said - Doug's invitation is quite valid - help would be welcome and
> I'd be happy to connect with someone who has time to help with this.
>
>
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