[openstack-dev] [TripleO][Kolla] Concerns about containers images in DockerHub
Joshua Harlow
harlowja at fastmail.com
Thu Oct 19 20:41:36 UTC 2017
Cool thanks,
I'll have to watch for this and see how it goes.
I thought there was some specific things that changed every time a
dockerfile was rendered (which would make it different each run) but I
may have been seeing things (or it's been fixed).
Michał Jastrzębski wrote:
> On 19 October 2017 at 13:32, Joshua Harlow<harlowja at fastmail.com> wrote:
>> This reminded me of something I wanted to ask.
>>
>> Is it true to state that only way to get 'fully' shared-base layers is to
>> have `kolla-build` build all the projects (that a person/company/other may
>> use) in one invocation? (in part because of the jinja2 template generation
>> which would cause differences in dockerfiles?...)
>
> Well jinja2 should render same dockerfile no matter when you call it,
> so it should be fine. Alternatively you can run something like
> kolla-build nova --skip-parents - this call will try to build all
> images with "nova" in them while not rebuilding openstack-base and
> base image.
>
>> I was pretty sure this was the case (unless things have changed), but just
>> wanting to check since that question seems (somewhat) on-topic...
>>
>> At godaddy we build individual projects using `kolla-build` (in part because
>> it makes it easy to rebuild + test + deply a single project with either an
>> update or a patch or ...) and I suspect others are doing this also (after
>> all the kolla-build command does take a regex of projects to build) - though
>> doing it in this way does seem like it would not reuse (all the layers
>> outside of the base operating system) layers 'optimally'?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>> Sam Yaple wrote:
>>> docker_image wouldn't be the best place for that. Buf if you are looking
>>> for a quicker solution, kolla_docker was written specifically to be
>>> license compatible for openstack. its structure should make it easily
>>> adapted to delete an image. And you can copy it and cut it up thanks to
>>> the license.
>>>
>>> Are you pushing images with no shared base layers at all (300MB
>>> compressed image is no shared base layers)? With shared base layers a
>>> full image set of Kolla images should be much smaller than the numbers
>>> you posted.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> SamYaple
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Gabriele Cerami<gcerami at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:gcerami at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> our CI scripts are now automatically building, testing and pushing
>>> approved openstack/RDO services images to public repositories in
>>> dockerhub using ansible docker_image module.
>>>
>>> Promotions have had some hiccups, but we're starting to regularly
>>> upload
>>> new images every 4 hours.
>>>
>>> When we'll get at full speed, we'll potentially have
>>> - 3-4 different sets of images, one per release of openstack (counting
>>> a
>>> EOL release grace period)
>>> - 90-100 different services images per release
>>> - 4-6 different versions of the same image ( keeping older promoted
>>> images for a while )
>>>
>>> At around 300MB per image a possible grand total is around 650GB of
>>> space used.
>>>
>>> We don't know if this is acceptable usage of dockerhub space and for
>>> this we already sent a similar email the to docker support to ask
>>> specifically if the user would get penalty in any way (e.g. enforcing
>>> quotas, rete limiting, blocking). We're still waiting for a reply.
>>>
>>> In any case it's critical to keep the usage around the estimate, and
>>> to
>>> achieve this we need a way to automatically delete the older images.
>>> docker_image module does not provide this functionality, and we think
>>> the only way is issuing direct calls to dockerhub API
>>>
>>> https://docs.docker.com/registry/spec/api/#deleting-an-image
>>> <https://docs.docker.com/registry/spec/api/#deleting-an-image>
>>>
>>> docker_image module structure doesn't seem to encourage the addition
>>> of
>>> such functionality directly in it, so we may be forced to use the uri
>>> module.
>>> With new images uploaded potentially every 4 hours, this will become a
>>> problem to be solved within the next two weeks.
>>>
>>> We'd appreciate any input for an existing, in progress and/or better
>>> solution for bulk deletion, and issues that may arise with our space
>>> usage in dockerhub
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
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