[openstack-dev] [tc] [all] TC Report 22

Chris Dent cdent+os at anticdent.org
Tue May 30 17:16:25 UTC 2017

There's no TC meeting this week. Thierry did a second weekly status
report[^1]. There will be a TC meeting next week (Tuesday, 6th June
at 20:00 UTC) with the intention of discussing the proposals about
postgreSQL (of which more below). Here are my comments on pending TC
activity that either seems relevant or needs additional input.

[^1]: <http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117531.html>

# Pending Stuff

## Queens Community Goals

Proposals for community-wide goals[^2] for the Queens cycle have started
coming in. These are changes which, if approved, all projects are
expected to satisfy. In Pike the goals are:

* [all control plane APIs deployable as WSGI apps](https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html)
* [supporting Python 3.5](https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/python35.html)

The full suite of goals for Queens has not yet been decided.
Identifying goals is a community-wide process. Your ideas are

### Split Tempest Plugins into Separate Repos

This goal for Queens is already approved. Any project which manages
its tempest tests as a plugin should move those tests into a
separate repo. The goal is at[^3]. The review for it[^4] has further
discussion on why it is a good idea.

The original goal did not provide instructions on how to do it.
There is a proposal in progress[^5] to add a link to an etherpad[^6]
with instructions.

Note that this goal only applies to tempest _plugins_. Projects
which have their tests in the core of tempest have nothing to do. I
wonder if it wouldn't be more fair for all projects to use plugins
for their tempest tests?

### Two Proposals on Improving Version Discovery

Monty has been writing API-WG guidelines about how to properly use
the service catalog and do version discovery[^7]. Building from that
he's proposed two new goals:

* [Add Queens goal to add collection links](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468436/)
* [Add Queens goal for full discovery alignment](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468437/)

The first is a small step in the direction of improving version
discovery, the second is all the steps to getting all projects
supporting proper version discovery, in case we are feeling extra

Both of these need review from project contributors, first to see if there
is agreement on the strategies, second to see if they are

[^2]: <https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/index.html>
[^3]: <https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/split-tempest-plugins.html>
[^4]: <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369749/>
[^5]: <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468972/>
[^6]: <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-separate-plugin>
[^7]: <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462814/>

## etcd as a base service

etcd has been proposed as a base service[^8]. A "base" service is
one that that can be expected to be present in any OpenStack
deployment. The hope is that by declaring this we can finally
bootstrap the distributed locking, group membership and service
liveness functionality that we've been talking about for years. If
you want this please say so on the review. You want this.

If for some reason you _don't_ want this, then you'll want to
register your reasons as soon as possible. The review will merge

[^8]: <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467436/>

## openstack-tc IRC channel

With the decrease in the number of TC meetings on IRC there's a plan
to have [office hours](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467256/)
where some significant chunk of the TC will be available. Initially
this was going to be in the `#openstack-dev` channel but in the
hopes of making the logs readable after the fact, a [new channel is

This is likely to pass soon, unless objections are raised. If you
have some, please raise them on the review.

## postgreSQL

The discussions around postgreSQL have yet to resolve. See [last week's
report](https://anticdent.org/tc-report-21.html) for additional
information. Because things are blocked and there have been some
expressions of review fatigue there will be, as mentioned above, a
TC meeting next week on 6th June, 20:00 UTC. Show up if you have an
opinion if or how postgreSQL should or should not have a continuing
presence in OpenStack. Some links:

* [original proposal documenting the lack of community attention to
* [a shorter, less MySQL-oriented version](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465589/)
* [related email
* [active vs external approaches to RDBMS

## Draft Vision for the TC

johnthetubaguy, dtroyer and I (cdent) continue to work on digesting
the feedback[^9] to the TC Vision document[^10]. We've made a bit of
progress but there's more work to do. If you have new feedback,
please add it to the review.

[^9]: <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YzHPP2EQh2DZWGTj_VbhwhtsDQebAgqldyi1MHm6QpE>
[^10]: <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453262/>

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