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On 16 May 2017 at 11:27, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
> Excerpts from Michał Jastrzębski's message of 2017-05-16 09:46:19 -0700:
>> So another consideration. Do you think whole rule of "not building
>> binares" should be reconsidered? We are kind of new use case here. We
>> aren't distro but we are packagers (kind of). I don't think putting us
>> on equal footing as Red Hat, Canonical or other companies is correct
>> here.
>>
>> K8s is something we want to work with, and what we are discussing is
>> central to how k8s is used. K8s community creates this culture of
>> "organic packages" built by anyone, most of companies/projects already
>> have semi-official container images and I think expectations on
>> quality of these are well...none? You get what you're given and if you
>> don't agree, there is always way to reproduce this yourself.
>>
>> [Another huge snip]
>>
>
> I wanted to have the discussion, but my position for now is that
> we should continue as we have been and not change the policy.
>
> I don't have a problem with any individual or group of individuals
> publishing their own organic packages. The issue I have is with
> making sure it is clear those *are* "organic" and not officially
> supported by the broader community. One way to do that is to say
> they need to be built somewhere other than on our shared infrastructure.
> There may be other ways, though, so I'm looking for input on that.

What I was trying to say here is, current discussion aside, maybe we
should revise this "not supported by broader community" rule. They may
very well be supported to a certain point. Support is not just yes or
no, it's all the levels in between. I think we can afford *some* level
of official support, even if that some level means best effort made by
community. If Kolla community, not an individual like myself, would
like to support these images best to our ability, why aren't we
allowed? As long as we are crystal clear what is scope of our support,
why can't we do it? I think we've already proven that it's going to be
tremendously useful for a lot of people, even in a shape we discuss
today, that is "best effort, you still need to validate it for
yourself"...

> Doug
>
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