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Sahara suffered the same effect. Our community is small and we won't be
approved to meet 4 times a year.

This time around we gave higher priority to the PTG and most won't be in
Boston. I think that the PTG itself worked nice for us but it did make it
difficult, no to say impossible, to meet other vertical projects.

Bottom line is, for sahara is still early to have a verdict whether it was
good or bad, and I believe experience and time will improve the PTG. I
agree with the problems mentioned but I also think we can wait a little
more time.

Best regards,

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 at 14:09 Joshua Harlow <harlowja at fastmail.com> wrote:

> Ben Swartzlander wrote:
> > I might be the only one who has negative feelings about the PTG/Forum
> > split, but I suspect the foundation is suppressing negative feedback
> > from myself and other developers so I'll express my feelings here. If
> > there's anyone else who feels like me please reply, otherwise I'll
> > assume I'm just an outlier.
>
> You aren't alone here.
>
> >
> > The new structure is asking developers to travel 4 times a year
> > (minimum) and makes it impossible to participate in 2 or more vertical
> > projects.
> >
> > I know that most of the people working on Manila have pretty limited
> > travel budgets, and meeting 4 times a year basically guarantees that a
> > good number of people will be remote at any given meeting. From my
> > perspective if I'm going to be meeting with people on the phone I'd
> > rather be on the phone myself and have everyone on equal footing.
>
> The funny part is that if you don't go to the PTG then the following is
> what u get.
>
> 'All ATCs who contributed to the Ocata release but were unable to
> attend the PTG will receive a $300 discount on the current ticket
> price for the Boston Summit. '
>
> So if you don't go to the PTGs (or attend virtually) then you get
> penalized on the summits as well, which is like, ummm, ya super awesome,
> lol.
>
> And don't get me started as to why the summits are so expensive;
> especially knowing how much it costs to join the openstack foundation
> (https://www.openstack.org/join/).
>
>
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