[openstack-dev] [tc][all] Move away from meeting channels

Thierry Carrez thierry at openstack.org
Mon Jun 26 13:27:21 UTC 2017

Flavio Percoco wrote:
> [...]
> Not being able to easily ping someone during a meeting is kind of a bummer but
> I'd argue that assuming someone is in the meeting channel and available at all
> times is a mistake to begin with.

I think people can be pinged by PM or on #openstack-dev, it's just an
habit to take. It's just that there are cases  where people passively
mention you, without going up to a formal ping -- I usually go back
later to that person to answer the issue they informally raised. We'll
lose that, but it's minor enough.

> There will be conflicts on meeting times. There will be slots that will
> be used by several teams as these slots are convinient for cross-timezone
> interaction. We can check this and highlight the various conflicts but I'd argue we
> shouldn't. We already have some overlaps in the current structure.

Yes we could give an indication of how busy a given slot is, when people
book it. I think the problem solves itself when the meeting participants
are asked to select a time slot -- if there are too many conflicts
people will naturally choose a less busy slot<

> The social drawbacks related to this change can be overcome by interacting more
> on te mailing list. Ideally, this change should help raising awareness
> about the distributed nature of our community, encourage folks to do more office
> hours, fewer meetings and, more importantly, to encourage folks to favor the
> mailing list over IRC conversations for *some* discussions.

My main gripe is that it that it reinforces silos, so this change hurts
inter-project work more than it helps it. But at the same time, nobody
was actually following every meeting anyway, so the damage is very limited.

> So, should we let teams to host IRC meetings in their own channels?
> Thoughts?

I think it would smooth the transition to office-hour style
coordination, which is a good step for more inclusion. I objected to the
idea in the past (due to the social damage) but at this points the
benefits probably outweigh the drawbacks.

Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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