[openstack-dev] [tc][fuel] Making Fuel a hosted project

Emilien Macchi emilien at redhat.com
Fri Jun 16 13:57:51 UTC 2017

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Dean Troyer <dtroyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'd fully support the removal of all deployment projects from the "official
>> OpenStack projects list".
> Nice to hear Jay! :)
> It was intentional from the beginning to not be in the deployment
> space, we allowed those projects in (not unanimously IIRC) and most of
> them did not evolve as expected.

Just for the record, it also happens out of the deployment space. We
allowed (not unanimously either, irrc) some projects to be part of the
Big Tent and some of them have died or are dying.

> I would not mind picking one winner and spending effort making an
> extremely easy, smooth, upgradable install that is The OneTrue
> OpenStack, I do not expect us to ever agree what that will look like
> so it is effectively never going to happen.  We've seen how far
> single-vendor projects have gone, and none of them reached that level.

Regarding all the company efforts to invest in one deployment tool,
it's going to be super hard to find The OneTrue and convince everyone
else to work on it.
Future will tell us but it's possible that deployments tools will be
reduced to 2 or 3 projects if it continues that way (Fuel is slowly
dying, Puppet OpenStack has less and less contributors, same for Chef
afik, etc).

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