Open Stack

On 12/15/2017 10:26 AM, Emilien Macchi wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 5:04 AM, Arx Cruz <arxcruz at redhat.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> The goal on this sprint was to enable into quickstart a way to reproduce
>> upstream jobs, in your personal RDO cloud tenant, making easy to developers
>> to debug and reproduce their code.
> 
> This phrase confused some non-Red-Hat OpenStack contributors on #openstack-tc:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2017-12-15.log.html#t2017-12-15T15:37:59
> 
> 2 questions came up:
> 
> 1) Do we need RDO Cloud access to reproduce TripleO CI jobs?
> 
> I think the answer is no. What you need though is an OpenStack cloud,
> with the work that is being done here:
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525743
> 
> I'll let the TripleO CI team to confirm that, no, you don't need RDO
> Cloud access.

/me makes yet another note to try OVB against a public cloud

At the moment, at least for the OVB jobs, you pretty much do need access 
to either RDO cloud or rh1/2.  It _may_ work against some public clouds, 
but I don't know of anyone trying it yet so I can't really recommend it.

> 
> 
> 2) Can anyone have access to RDO Cloud resources?
> 
> One of the reasons of creating RDO Cloud was for developers so they
> can get resources to build OpenStack.
> RDO community organizes something called "test days", where anyone is
> welcome to join and test OpenStack on centos7 with RDO packages.
> See: https://dmsimard.com/2017/11/29/come-try-a-real-openstack-queens-deployment/
> The event is announced on RDO users mailing list:
> https://lists.rdoproject.org/pipermail/users/2017-December/000079.html
> Other than that, I'm not sure about the process if someone needs
> full-time access. FWIW, I never saw any rejection in the past. We
> welcome contributors and we want to help how we can.

I am aware of a few people who have been rejected for RDO cloud access, 
and given the capacity constraints it is currently under I suspect there 
would need to be strong justification for new users.  I'm _not_ an RDO 
cloud admin though, so that's not an official statement of any kind.

Also note that the test day is not happening on RDO cloud, but on a 
separate single node cloud (per 
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rdo-queens-m2-cloud).  It would not be 
particularly well suited to reproducing CI and presumably won't be 
around for long.

So the story's not great right now unless you already have access to 
cloud resources.  The developer hardware requirements problem is not 
quite solved yet. :-/