[openstack-dev] [all][elections][TC] TC Candidacy
Nikhil Komawar
nik.komawar at gmail.com
Wed Sep 28 16:04:44 UTC 2016
I noticed a good statement, marked it inline.
On 9/28/16 7:24 AM, John Davidge wrote:
> Hi Zane,
>
> Thanks for pointing this out! My interpretation of the StackForge
> Retirement page[1] was wrong on that point. I've updated the blog post to
> reflect that (without removing the original interpretation).
>
> The discussion about renaming git repos is a bit of a red herring, because
> what we're really talking about is what it *means* to be in Stackforge vs.
> OpenStack vs. OpenStack Family, not which git namespace a project should
> live in. Apologies if I didn't make that clear.
>
> Like many of us, I do my best to keep up with historical context, but when
> there is so much contradictory information/opinion out there about what
> OpenStack is/isn't was/wasn't it can be a struggle at times. The crux of
"""
> my proposal is aiming to solve that by not trying to be everything to
> everyone under one tent - by defining sensible boundaries to separate the
> different goals of the community.
"""
+1000 to sensible boundaries. the key factor is to strike the balance.
>
> All the best,
>
> John
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Stackforge_Namespace_Retirement
>
> On 9/27/16, 5:13 PM, Zane Bitter wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/16 06:19, John Davidge wrote:
>>>> Having Stackforge as a separate Github organization and set of
>>>>> repositories was a maintenance nightmare due to the awkwardness of
>>>>> renaming projects when they "moved into OpenStack".
>>> There's no reason that this would need a separate github structure, just
>>> separate messaging and rules.
>> That's exactly what we have now.
>>
>> This statement on your blog:
>>
>> "[StackForge] was retired in October 2015, at which point all projects
>> had to move into the OpenStack Big Tent or leave entirely."
>>
>> is completely false. That never happened. There are still plenty of
>> repos on git.openstack.org that are not part of the Big Tent. At no time
>> has any project been required to join the Big Tent in order to continue
>> being hosted.
>>
>> Maybe you should consider reading up on the historical background to
>> these changes. There are a lot of constraints that have to be met - from
>> technical ones like the fact that it's not feasible to rename git repos
>> when they move into or out of the official OpenStack project, to legal
>> ones like how the TC has to designate projects in order to trigger
>> certain rights and responsibilities in the (effectively immutable)
>> Foundation by-laws. Rehashing all of the same old discussions without
>> reference to these constraints is unlikely to be productive.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Zane.
>>
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Thanks,
Nikhil
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