[openstack-dev] [nova] Wishlist bugs == (trivial) blueprint?

Matt Riedemann mriedem at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Tue Mar 15 13:48:11 UTC 2016



On 3/15/2016 8:37 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016, Markus Zoeller wrote:
>
>> Long story short, I'm in favor of abandoning the use of "wishlist"
>> as an importance in bug reports to track requests for enhancements.
>
> While I'm very much in favor of limiting the amount of time issues
> (of any sort) linger in launchpad[1] I worry that if we stop making
> "wishlist" available as an option then people who are not well
> informed about the complex system for achieving features in Nova
> will have no medium to get their ideas into the system. We want
> users to sometime be able to walk up, drop an idea and move on without
> having to be responsible for actually doing that work. If we insist
> that such ideas must go through the blueprint process then most
> ideas will be left unstated.

We do have a way for people to drop off RFEs/ideas for features without 
actually providing design details, which is the backlog specs:

https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/backlog/index.html

>
> What I think we need to do instead is fix this problem:
>
>> * we don't have a process to transform wishlist bugs to blueprints
>
> such that we do have a process of some kind where a wishlist idea
> either gets an owner who starts the blueprint process (because it is
> just that cool) or dies from lack of attention.
>
> It's clear, though, that we already have a huge debt in bug/issue
> management so adding yet another task is hard to contemplate.
>
> I think we can address some of that by more quickly expiring bugs
> that have had no recent activity or attention, on the assumption
> that:
>
> * They will come back up again if they are good ideas or real bugs.
> * Lack of attention is a truthy signal of either lack of resources or lack
>    of importance.
>
> What needs to happen is that fewer things which are not actionable
> or nobody is interested in show up when traversing the bugs looking
> for something to work on.
>
> I'm happy to help some of this become true, in part because of [1]
> below.
>
> [1] I've recently spent a bit of time chasing bugs tagged
> "scheduler" and far too many of them are so old that it's impossible
> to tell whether they matter any more, and many of them are confused
> by patches and people who have gone in and out of existence. It's
> challenging to tease out what can be done and the information has
> very little archival value. It should go off the radar. Having a
> bunch of stuff that looks like it needs to be done but never
> actually is is stop energy and depressing.
>
>
>
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We need to shrink the nova bug backlog. I'd say any wishlist bugs that 
are open for over a year (maybe even 6 months) should be marked Invalid 
with a comment saying to file a blueprint or a backlog spec (with links 
on how to do that).

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann




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