[openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

Matt Fischer matt at mattfischer.com
Mon Feb 22 23:49:31 UTC 2016

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch> wrote:

> On 22/02/16 17:27, "John Garbutt" <john at johngarbutt.com> wrote:
> >On 22 February 2016 at 15:31, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:
> >> On 02/22/2016 07:24 AM, Russell Bryant wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Thierry Carrez <
> thierry at openstack.org
> >>>> <mailto:thierry at openstack.org>> wrote:
> >>>>     Hi everyone,
> >>>>     TL;DR: Let's split the events, starting after Barcelona.
> >>> This proposal sounds fantastic.  Thank you very much to those that help
> >>> put it together.
> >> Totally agree. I think it's an excellent way to address the concerns and
> >> balance all of the diverse needs we have.
> >
> >tl;dr
> >+1
> >Awesome work ttx.
> >Thank you!
> >
> >Cheaper cities & venues should make it easier for more contributors to
> >attend. Thats a big deal. This also feels like enough notice to plan
> >for that.
> >
> >I think this means summit talk proposal deadline is both after the
> >previous release, and after the contributor event for the next
> >release? That should help keep proposals concrete (less guess work
> >when submitting). Nice.
> >
> >Dev wise, it seems equally good timing. Initially I was worried about
> >the event distracting from RC bugs, but actually I can see this
> >helping.
> >
> >I am sure there are more questions that will pop up. Like I assume
> >this means there is no ATC free pass to the summit? And I guess a
> >small nominal fee for the contributor meetup (like the recent ops
> >meetup, to help predict numbers of accurately)? I guess that helps
> >level the playing field for contributors who don't put git commits in
> >the repo (I am thinking vocal operators that don't contribute code).
> >But I probably shouldn't go into all that just yet.
> I would like to find a way to allow contributors cheaper access to the
> summits. Many of the devOPS contributors are patching test cases,
> configuration management recipes and documentation which should be rewarded
> in some form.
> Assuming that many of the ATCs are not so motivated to attend the summit,
> the cost in offering access to the event would not be significant.
> Charging for the Ops meetups was, to my understanding, more to confirm
> commitment to attend given limited space.
> Thus, I would be in favour of a preferential rate for contributors
> (whether ATC is the right criteria is a different question) for summits.
> Tim

I believe this is already the case. Unless I'm mistaken contributing to a
big tent config management project like the openstack puppet modules or
chef counts for ATC. I'm not sure if osad is big tent but if so it would
also count. Test cases and Docs also already count.
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