[openstack-dev] [all] A proposal to separate the design summit

Walter A. Boring IV walter.boring at hpe.com
Mon Feb 22 19:51:35 UTC 2016

On 02/22/2016 09:45 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Amrith Kumar wrote:
>> [...]
>> As a result of this proposal, there will still be four events each 
>> year, two "OpenStack Summit" events and two "MidCycle" events.
> Actually, the OpenStack summit becomes the midcycle event. The new 
> separated contributors-oriented event[tm] happens at the beginning of 
> the new cycle.
>> [...]
>> Given the number of projects, and leaving aside high bandwidth 
>> internet and remote participation, providing dedicated meeting room 
>> for the duration of the MidCycle event for each project is a 
>> considerable undertaking. I believe therefore that the consequence is 
>> that the MidCycle event will end up being of comparable scale to the 
>> current Design Summit or larger, and will likely need a similar venue.
> It still is an order of magnitude smaller than the "OpenStack Summit". 
> Think 600 people instead of 6000. The idea behind co-hosting is to 
> facilitate cross-project interactions. You know where to find people, 
> and you can easily arrange a meeting between two teams for an hour.
>> [...]
>> At the current OpenStack Summit, there is an opportunity for 
>> contributors, customers and operators to interact, not just in 
>> technical meetings, but also in a social setting. I think this is 
>> valuable, even though there seems to be a number of people who 
>> believe that this is not necessarily the case.
> I don't think the proposal removes that opportunity. Contributors 
> /can/ still go to OpenStack Summits. They just don't /have to/. I just 
> don't think every contributor needs to be present at every OpenStack 
> Summit, while I'd like to see most of them present at every separated 
> contributors-oriented event[tm].

Yes they can, but if contributors go to the design summit, then they 
also have to get travel budget to go to the new Summit.   So, design 
summits,  midcycle meetups, and now the split off marketing summit.   
This is making it overall more expensive for contributors that meet with 

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