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I like the thin container idea, and I am +1 too. But the only concern is
that we MUST provide a robust migrate script( or Ansible role task) to do
the convert stuff. Doesn't we have enough time for this?

On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Michal Rostecki <mrostecki at mirantis.com>
wrote:

> On 02/20/2016 05:39 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:
>
>> Sam,
>>
>> I seem to recall Paul was not in favor, so there was not a majority of
>> cores there.  There were 6 core reviewers at the midcycle, and if you
>> only count kolla-core (which at this time I do for policy changes) that
>> means we had a vote of 5.  We have 11 core reviewers, so we need a vote
>> of 6+ for simple majority. I was also sort of –1 because it is an
>> exception, but I do agree the value is warranted.  I believe I expressed
>> at  the midcycle that I was –1 to the idea, atleast until the broader
>> core review team voted.  If I wasn't clear on that, I apologize.
>>
>> I'll roll with the community on this one unless I have to tie break –
>> then groan :)
>>
>> That is why a decision was made by the group to take this to the mailing
>> list.
>>
>> Regards
>> -steve
>>
>> From: Sam Yaple <samuel at yaple.net <mailto:samuel at yaple.net>>
>> Reply-To: "sam at yaple.net <mailto:sam at yaple.net>" <sam at yaple.net
>> <mailto:sam at yaple.net>>, "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for
>> usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>> <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 9:32 AM
>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>> <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>> <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers
>> to stable/liberty
>>
>>     I was under the impression we did have a majority of cores in favor
>>     of the idea at the midcycle. But if this is a vote-vote, then I am a
>>     very strong +1 as well. This is something operators will absolutely
>>     want and and need.
>>
>>     Sam Yaple
>>
>>     On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michał Jastrzębski
>>     <inc007 at gmail.com <mailto:inc007 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Strong +1 from me. This have multiple benefits:
>>         Easier (aka possible) debugging of networking in running envs (not
>>         having tools like tcpdump at your disposal is a pain) - granted,
>>         there
>>         are ways to get this working without thin containers but require
>>         fair
>>         amount of docker knowledge.
>>         Docker daemon restart will not break routers - currently with
>> docker
>>         restart container with namespace dies and we lose our routers
>> (they
>>         will migrate using HA, but well, still a networking downtime).
>> This
>>         will no longer be the case so...
>>         Upgrades with no vm downtime whatsoever depends on this one.
>>         If we could deploy liberty code with all these nice stuff, I'd be
>>         happier person;)
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Michal
>>
>>         On 20 February 2016 at 07:40, Steven Dake (stdake)
>>         <stdake at cisco.com <mailto:stdake at cisco.com>> wrote:
>>         > Just clarifying, this is not a "revote" - there were not enough
>> core
>>         > reviewers in favor of this idea at the Kolla midcycle, so we
>> need to have a
>>         > vote on the mailing list to sort out this policy decision of
>> managing
>>         > stable/liberty.
>>         >
>>         > Regards,
>>         > -steve
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > From: Steven Dake <stdake at cisco.com <mailto:stdake at cisco.com>>
>>         > Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>> questions)"
>>         > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>         <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>         > Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 6:28 AM
>>         > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>> questions)"
>>         > <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>         <mailto:openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>>
>>         > Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin
>> containers to
>>         > stable/liberty
>>         >
>>         > Folks,
>>         >
>>         > There were not enough core reviewers to pass a majority
>> approval of the
>>         > neutron thin container backport idea, so we separated it out
>> from fixing
>>         > stable/liberty itself.
>>         >
>>         > I am going to keep voting open for *2* weeks this time.  The
>> reason for the
>>         > two weeks is I would like a week of discussion before people
>> just blindly
>>         > vote ;)
>>         >
>>         > Voting begins now and concludes March 4th.  Since this is a
>> policy decision,
>>         > no veto votes are permitted, just a +1 and a  -1.  Abstaining
>> is the same as
>>         > voting –1.
>>         >
>>
>
> I'm +1, but under condition that we will provide some script to migrate
> from supervisord-container to thin-containers (even if such a script will
> bring risk of downtime of the cloud).
>
>
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