<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;font-size:small">I like the thin container idea, and I am +1 too. But the only concern is that we MUST provide a robust migrate script( or Ansible role task) to do the convert stuff. Doesn't we have enough time for this?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Michal Rostecki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mrostecki@mirantis.com" target="_blank">mrostecki@mirantis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 02/20/2016 05:39 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:<br>
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Sam,<br>
<br>
I seem to recall Paul was not in favor, so there was not a majority of<br>
cores there. There were 6 core reviewers at the midcycle, and if you<br>
only count kolla-core (which at this time I do for policy changes) that<br>
means we had a vote of 5. We have 11 core reviewers, so we need a vote<br>
of 6+ for simple majority. I was also sort of –1 because it is an<br>
exception, but I do agree the value is warranted. I believe I expressed<br>
at the midcycle that I was –1 to the idea, atleast until the broader<br>
core review team voted. If I wasn't clear on that, I apologize.<br>
<br>
I'll roll with the community on this one unless I have to tie break –<br>
then groan :)<br>
<br>
That is why a decision was made by the group to take this to the mailing<br>
list.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
-steve<br>
<br></span>
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers<br>
to stable/liberty<br>
<br>
I was under the impression we did have a majority of cores in favor<br>
of the idea at the midcycle. But if this is a vote-vote, then I am a<br>
very strong +1 as well. This is something operators will absolutely<br>
want and and need.<br>
<br>
Sam Yaple<br>
<br>
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Michał Jastrzębski<br></span><span class="">
<<a href="mailto:inc007@gmail.com" target="_blank">inc007@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:inc007@gmail.com" target="_blank">inc007@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Strong +1 from me. This have multiple benefits:<br>
Easier (aka possible) debugging of networking in running envs (not<br>
having tools like tcpdump at your disposal is a pain) - granted,<br>
there<br>
are ways to get this working without thin containers but require<br>
fair<br>
amount of docker knowledge.<br>
Docker daemon restart will not break routers - currently with docker<br>
restart container with namespace dies and we lose our routers (they<br>
will migrate using HA, but well, still a networking downtime). This<br>
will no longer be the case so...<br>
Upgrades with no vm downtime whatsoever depends on this one.<br>
If we could deploy liberty code with all these nice stuff, I'd be<br>
happier person;)<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Michal<br>
<br>
On 20 February 2016 at 07:40, Steven Dake (stdake)<br></span><span class="">
<<a href="mailto:stdake@cisco.com" target="_blank">stdake@cisco.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:stdake@cisco.com" target="_blank">stdake@cisco.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> Just clarifying, this is not a "revote" - there were not enough core<br>
> reviewers in favor of this idea at the Kolla midcycle, so we need to have a<br>
> vote on the mailing list to sort out this policy decision of managing<br>
> stable/liberty.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> -steve<br>
><br>
><br></span>
> From: Steven Dake <<a href="mailto:stdake@cisco.com" target="_blank">stdake@cisco.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:stdake@cisco.com" target="_blank">stdake@cisco.com</a>>><span class=""><br>
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> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 6:28 AM<br>
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> Subject: [openstack-dev] [kolla][vote] port neutron thin containers to<br>
> stable/liberty<br>
><br>
> Folks,<br>
><br>
> There were not enough core reviewers to pass a majority approval of the<br>
> neutron thin container backport idea, so we separated it out from fixing<br>
> stable/liberty itself.<br>
><br>
> I am going to keep voting open for *2* weeks this time. The reason for the<br>
> two weeks is I would like a week of discussion before people just blindly<br>
> vote ;)<br>
><br>
> Voting begins now and concludes March 4th. Since this is a policy decision,<br>
> no veto votes are permitted, just a +1 and a -1. Abstaining is the same as<br>
> voting –1.<br>
><br>
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I'm +1, but under condition that we will provide some script to migrate from supervisord-container to thin-containers (even if such a script will bring risk of downtime of the cloud).<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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