[openstack-dev] [all] [tc] "No Open Core" in 2016

Jay Pipes jaypipes at gmail.com
Wed Feb 17 18:20:24 UTC 2016

On 02/17/2016 09:30 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> Excerpts from Mike Perez's message of 2016-02-17 03:21:51 -0800:
>> On 02/16/2016 11:30 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>> So I think the project team is doing everything we've asked.  We
>>> changed our policies around new projects to emphasize the social
>>> aspects of projects, and community interactions. Telling a bunch
>>> of folks that they "are not OpenStack" even though they follow those
>>> policies is rather distressing.  I think we should be looking for
>>> ways to say "yes" to new projects, rather than "no."
>> My disagreements with accepting Poppy has been around testing, so let me
>> reiterate what I've already said in this thread.
>> The governance currently states that under Open Development "The project
>> has core reviewers and adopts a test-driven gate in the OpenStack
>> infrastructure for changes" [1].
>> If we don't have a solution like OpenCDN, Poppy has to adopt a reference
>> implementation that is a commercial entity, and infra has to also be
>> dependent on it. I get Infra is already dependent on public cloud
>> donations, but if we start opening the door to allow projects to bring
>> in those commercial dependencies, that's not good.
> Only Poppy's test suite would rely on that, though, right? And other
> projects can choose whether to co-gate with Poppy or not. So I don't see
> how this limitation has an effect on anyone other than the Poppy team.

But what would really be tested in Poppy without any commercial CDN 
vendor? Nothing functional, right? I believe the fact that Poppy cannot 
be functionally tested in the OpenStack CI gate basically disqualifies 
it from being "in OpenStack".


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