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'be considered to cleaned up’

i meant OR, not to. But I note that armax’s patch already clarified this, so I’ll go back to my jetlag stupor. :-)

Thanks,
doug

> On Oct 24, 2015, at 9:07 PM, Doug Wiegley <dougwig at parksidesoftware.com> wrote:
> 
> As an alternative, to be considered to cleaned up, note that octavia, also a neutron stadium project, puts its specs in its own repo, runs its own doc jobs, etc. Pros and cons, but just pointing out that its out there.
> 
> Thanks,
> doug
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com <mailto:mestery at mestery.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com <mailto:armamig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 October 2015 at 10:29, Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com <mailto:mestery at mestery.com>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com <mailto:armamig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 October 2015 at 09:53, Kyle Mestery <mestery at mestery.com <mailto:mestery at mestery.com>> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com <mailto:armamig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 October 2015 at 04:12, Gal Sagie <gal.sagie at gmail.com <mailto:gal.sagie at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Do we also want to consider Project Kuryr part of this?
>> 
>> No, why would we?
>>  
>> The reason to consider it is because Kuryr is a sub-project of Neutron, and they are doing their spec submissions following the Neutron guidelines. Adding the kuryr-core gerrit group to be on part with the *aas repos makes sense here. If other sub-projects (like L2FW, SFC, etc.) start doing spec reviews in the neutron-specs repository, then adding them makes sense too.
>> 
>> I don't believe this is the road we set ourselves on when we started the decomp/stadium. We wanted a clear separation of concerns and I don't see how going down this path is going to help us achieve that.
>> 
>> I don't see the grounds to have such an abrupt change in direction right now, especially for the level of work that that would imply and the pressure that would put on the drivers team. Anyone is free to review and contribute where it matters for them, and location should not prevent them from doing so.
>>  
>> I was merely implying that since these projects are part of neutron, and they have specs, keeping them in one place makes sense. And by doing that, we'd need to give them +2 powers for their core reviewers. But, I'm fine with leaving things the way they are and having them put their specs in their devref. But we should update the devref in Neutron to reflect this, e.g. that we don't expect specs in neutron-specs for things outside [neutron, neutron-fwaas, neutron-lbaas, neutron-vpnaas].
>>  
>> 
>> IMO, it's pretty clear from here [1], which I revised in the context of [2]. Not sure if there's anything else that's left to misunderstanding.
>> 
>> 
>> I think this [1] helps to make it 100% clearer, at least to me.
>> 
>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/238190 <https://review.openstack.org/238190>
>>  
>> [1] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#neutron-specs-core-reviewer-team <http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#neutron-specs-core-reviewer-team>
>> [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/ <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/>
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> We already started sending Kuryr spec to the Neutron repository and I think it would make sense to manage it
>> as part of Neutron spec process.
>> 
>> No, unless what you are asking are changes to the core. Do you have a reference for me to look at?
>>  
>> See above, perhaps I answered this for you.
>>  
>> 
>> Any opinions on that?
>> 
>> Gal.
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Armando M. <armamig at gmail.com <mailto:armamig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> During revision of the Neutron teams [1], we made clear that the neutron-specs repo is to be targeted by specs for all the Neutron projects (core + *-aas).
>> 
>> For this reason I made sure that the neutron-specs-core team +2 right was extended to all the core teams.
>> 
>> Be mindful, use your +2 rights with care: if you are core on a *-aas project, you should exercise that vote only for specs that pertain the project you're core of.
>> 
>> If I could use this email as a reminder also of the core hierarchy and lieutenant system we switched to in Liberty ([3]): if you have been made core by a lieutenant of a sub-system, please use your +2/+A only within your area of comfort and reach out for help if in doubt. 
>> 
>> Reviews are always welcome though!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Armando
>> 
>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/ <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/>
>> [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/314,members <https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/314,members>
>> [3] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy <http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy>
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