[openstack-dev] Who is using nova-docker? (Re: [nova-docker] Status update)

John Griffith john.griffith8 at gmail.com
Wed May 13 04:37:47 UTC 2015


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Fawad Khaliq <fawad at plumgrid.com> wrote:

>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Davanum Srinivas <davanum at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Good points, Dan and John.
>>
>> At this point it may be useful to see who is actually using
>> nova-docker. Can folks who are using any version of nova-docker,
>> please speak up with a short description of their use case?
>>
> I am using Kilo in a multi-hypervisor mode, some applications running on
> Docker containers and some backend work provisioned as VMs.
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> dims
>>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Dan Smith <dms at danplanet.com> wrote:
>> >> +1 Agreed nested containers are a thing. Its a great reason to keep
>> >> our LXC driver.
>> >
>> > I don't think that's a reason we should keep our LXC driver, because you
>> > can still run containers in containers with other things. If anything,
>> > using a nova vm-like container to run application-like containers inside
>> > them is going to beg the need to tweak more detailed things on the
>> > vm-like container to avoid restricting the application one, I think.
>> >
>> > IMHO, the reason to keep the seldom-used, not-that-useful LXC driver in
>> > nova is because it's nearly free. It is the libvirt driver with a few
>> > conditionals to handle different things when necessary for LXC. The
>> > docker driver is a whole other nova driver to maintain, with even less
>> > applicability to being a system container (IMHO).
>> >
>> >> I am keen we set the right expectations here. If you want to treat
>> >> docker containers like VMs, thats OK.
>> >>
>> >> I guess a remaining concern is the driver dropping into diss-repair
>> >> if most folks end up using Magnum when they want to use docker.
>> >
>> > I think this is likely the case and I'd like to avoid getting into this
>> > situation again. IMHO, this is not our target audience, it's very much
>> > not free to just put it into the tree because "meh, some people might
>> > like it instead of the libvirt-lxc driver".
>> >
>> > --Dan
>> >
>> >
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> ​I'm using nova-docker, started out as just learning the pieces... ended
up being useful for some internal test and dev work on my side.  Including
building/shipping apps to customers that I used to send out as qcows.  I
could certainly do this without nova-docker and go straight to docker, but
this is "more fun", and fits with my existing workflow/usage of OpenStack
for various things.

Also FWIW Magnum currently is way overkill for what I'm doing, just like
some other projects.​  I do plan to check that out before long, but for now
it's a bit overkill for me.
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