<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Fawad Khaliq <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fawad@plumgrid.com" target="_blank">fawad@plumgrid.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Davanum Srinivas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com" target="_blank">davanum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Good points, Dan and John.<br>
<br>
At this point it may be useful to see who is actually using<br>
nova-docker. Can folks who are using any version of nova-docker,<br>
please speak up with a short description of their use case?<br></blockquote></span><div>I am using Kilo in a multi-hypervisor mode, some applications running on Docker containers and some backend work provisioned as VMs. </div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Thanks,<br>
dims<br>
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On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Dan Smith <<a href="mailto:dms@danplanet.com" target="_blank">dms@danplanet.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> +1 Agreed nested containers are a thing. Its a great reason to keep<br>
>> our LXC driver.<br>
><br>
> I don't think that's a reason we should keep our LXC driver, because you<br>
> can still run containers in containers with other things. If anything,<br>
> using a nova vm-like container to run application-like containers inside<br>
> them is going to beg the need to tweak more detailed things on the<br>
> vm-like container to avoid restricting the application one, I think.<br>
><br>
> IMHO, the reason to keep the seldom-used, not-that-useful LXC driver in<br>
> nova is because it's nearly free. It is the libvirt driver with a few<br>
> conditionals to handle different things when necessary for LXC. The<br>
> docker driver is a whole other nova driver to maintain, with even less<br>
> applicability to being a system container (IMHO).<br>
><br>
>> I am keen we set the right expectations here. If you want to treat<br>
>> docker containers like VMs, thats OK.<br>
>><br>
>> I guess a remaining concern is the driver dropping into diss-repair<br>
>> if most folks end up using Magnum when they want to use docker.<br>
><br>
> I think this is likely the case and I'd like to avoid getting into this<br>
> situation again. IMHO, this is not our target audience, it's very much<br>
> not free to just put it into the tree because "meh, some people might<br>
> like it instead of the libvirt-lxc driver".<br>
><br>
> --Dan<br>
><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I'm using nova-docker, started out as just learning the pieces... ended up being useful for some internal test and dev work on my side. Including building/shipping apps to customers that I used to send out as qcows. I could certainly do this without nova-docker and go straight to docker, but this is "more fun", and fits with my existing workflow/usage of OpenStack for various things.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Also FWIW Magnum currently is way overkill for what I'm doing, just like some other projects. I do plan to check that out before long, but for now it's a bit overkill for me.</div><br></div></div>