[openstack-dev] [keystone][reseller] New way to get a project scoped token by name

David Chadwick d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk
Sat Jun 6 10:01:10 UTC 2015



On 06/06/2015 00:24, Adam Young wrote:
> On 06/05/2015 01:15 PM, Henry Nash wrote:
>> I am sure I have missed something along the way, but can someone
>> explain to me why we need this at all.  Project names are unique
>> within a domain, with the exception of the project that is acting as
>> its domain (i.e. they can only every be two names clashing in a
>> hierarchy at the domain level and below).  So why isn’t specifying
>> “is_domain=True/False” sufficient in an auth scope along with the
>> project name?
> 
> The limitation of " Project names are unique within a domain" is
> artificial and somethi8ng we should not be enforcing.  Names should only
> be unique within parent project.

+++1

> 
> This whole thing started by trying to distinguish a domain from a
> project within that domain that both have the same name. We can special
> case that, but it is not a great solution.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>> On 5 Jun 2015, at 18:02, Adam Young <ayoung at redhat.com
>>> <mailto:ayoung at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 06/03/2015 05:05 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> There needs to be some form of global hierarchy delimiter - well
>>>> more to the point there should be a common one across OpenStack
>>>> installations to ensure we are providing a good and consistent (and
>>>> more to the point inter-operable) experience to our users. I'm
>>>> worried a custom defined delimiter (even at the domain level) is
>>>> going to make it difficult to consume this data outside of the
>>>> context of OpenStack (there are applications that are written to use
>>>> the APIs directly).
>>> We have one already.  We are working JSON, and so instead of project
>>> name being a string, it can be an array.
>>>
>>> Nothing else is backwards compatible.  Nothing else will ensure we
>>> don;t break exisiting deployments.
>>>
>>> Moving forward, we should support DNS notation, but it has to be an
>>> opt in
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The alternative is to explicitly list the delimiter in the project (
>>>> e.g. {"hierarchy": {"delim": ".", "domain.project.project2"}} ). The
>>>> additional need to look up the delimiter / set the delimiter when
>>>> creating a domain is likely to make for a worse user experience than
>>>> selecting one that is not different across installations.
>>>>
>>>> --Morgan
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:19 PM, David Chadwick
>>>> <d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk <mailto:d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 03/06/2015 14:54, Henrique Truta wrote:
>>>>     > Hi David,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > You mean creating some kind of "delimiter" attribute in the domain
>>>>     > entity? That seems like a good idea, although it does not
>>>>     solve the
>>>>     > problem Morgan's mentioned that is the global hierarchy delimiter.
>>>>
>>>>     There would be no global hierarchy delimiter. Each domain would
>>>>     define
>>>>     its own and this would be carried in the JSON as a separate
>>>>     parameter so
>>>>     that the recipient can tell how to parse hierarchical names
>>>>
>>>>     David
>>>>
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Henrique
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Em qua, 3 de jun de 2015 às 04:21, David Chadwick
>>>>     > <d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk <mailto:d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk>
>>>>     <mailto:d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk
>>>>     <mailto:d.w.chadwick at kent.ac.uk>>> escreveu:
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     On 02/06/2015 23:34, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>>>>     >     > Hi Henrique,
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > I don't think we need to specifically call out that we
>>>>     want a
>>>>     >     domain, we
>>>>     >     > should always reference the namespace as we do today.
>>>>     Basically, if we
>>>>     >     > ask for a project name we need to also provide it's
>>>>     namespace (your
>>>>     >     > option #1). This clearly lines up with how we handle
>>>>     projects in
>>>>     >     domains
>>>>     >     > today.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > I would, however, focus on how to represent the
>>>>     namespace in a single
>>>>     >     > (usable) string. We've been delaying the work on this
>>>>     for a while
>>>>     >     since
>>>>     >     > we have historically not provided a clear way to delimit the
>>>>     >     hierarchy.
>>>>     >     > If we solve the issue with "what is the delimiter"
>>>>     between domain,
>>>>     >     > project, and subdomain/subproject, we end up solving the
>>>>     usability
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     why not allow the top level domain/project to define the
>>>>     delimiter for
>>>>     >     its tree, and to carry the delimiter in the JSON as a new
>>>>     parameter.
>>>>     >     That provides full flexibility for all languages and locales
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     David
>>>>     >
>>>>     >     > issues with proposal #1, and not breaking the current
>>>>     behavior you'd
>>>>     >     > expect with implementing option #2 (which at face value
>>>>     feels to
>>>>     >     be API
>>>>     >     > incompatible/break of current behavior).
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > Cheers,
>>>>     >     > --Morgan
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Henrique Truta
>>>>     >     > <henriquecostatruta at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com>
>>>>     >     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com>
>>>>     >     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:henriquecostatruta at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     Hi folks,
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     In Reseller[1], we’ll have the domains concept
>>>>     merged into
>>>>     >     projects,
>>>>     >     >     that means that we will have projects that will
>>>>     behave as domains.
>>>>     >     >     Therefore, it will be possible to have two projects
>>>>     with the same
>>>>     >     >     name in a hierarchy, one being a domain and another
>>>>     being a
>>>>     >     regular
>>>>     >     >     project. For instance, the following hierarchy will
>>>>     be valid:
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     A - is_domain project, with domain A
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     |
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     B - project
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     |
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     A - project with domain A
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     That hierarchy faces a problem when a user requests
>>>>     a project
>>>>     >     scoped
>>>>     >     >     token by name, once she’ll pass “domain = ‘A’” and
>>>>     >     project.name <http://project.name/> <http://project.name
>>>>     <http://project.name/>>
>>>>     >     >     <http://project.name <http://project.name/>> = “A”.
>>>>     Currently, we have no way to
>>>>     >     >     distinguish which project we are referring to. We
>>>>     have two
>>>>     >     proposals
>>>>     >     >     for this.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >      1.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >         Specify the whole hierarchy in the token request
>>>>     body, which
>>>>     >     >         means that when requesting a token for the child
>>>>     project for
>>>>     >     >         that hierarchy, we’ll have in the scope field
>>>>     something like:
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     "project": {
>>>>     >     >                    "domain": {
>>>>     >     >                        "name": "A"
>>>>     >     >                    },
>>>>     >     >                    "name": [“A”', “B”, “A”]
>>>>     >     >                }
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     If the project name is unique inside the domain
>>>>     (project “B”, for
>>>>     >     >     example), the hierarchy is optional.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >      2.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >         When a conflict happen, always provide a token
>>>>     to the child
>>>>     >     >         project. That means that, in case we have a name
>>>>     clashing as
>>>>     >     >         described, it will only be possible to get a
>>>>     project scoped
>>>>     >     >         token to the is_domain project through its id.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     The former will give us more clarity and won’t
>>>>     create any more
>>>>     >     >     restrictions than we already have. As a con, we
>>>>     currently are not
>>>>     >     >     able to get the names of projects in the hierarchy
>>>>     above a given
>>>>     >     >     project. Although the latter seems to hurt fewer
>>>>     people, it
>>>>     >     has the
>>>>     >     >     disadvantage of creating another set of constraints
>>>>     that might
>>>>     >     >     difficult the UX in the future.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     What do you think about that? We want to hear your
>>>>     oppinion, so we
>>>>     >     >     can discuss it at today’s Keystone Meeting.
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >     [1]
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     
>>>>     https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/specs/liberty/reseller.rst
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     >
>>>>     >     
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