[openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging

Joshua Harlow harlowja at outlook.com
Fri Jan 9 20:11:08 UTC 2015

So the only comment I'll put in is one that I know not everyone agrees 
with but might as well throw it out there.

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml (this page has a bunch of 
useful advice IMHO).

 From that; something useful to look/think over at least...

If you're considering publishing channel logs, think it through. The 
freenode network is an interactive environment. Even on public channels, 
most users don't weigh their comments with the idea that they'll be 
enshrined in perpetuity. For that reason, few participants publish logs.

If you're publishing logs on an ongoing basis, your channel topic should 
reflect that fact. Be sure to provide a way for users to make comments 
without logging, and get permission from the channel owners before you 
start. If you're thinking of "anonymizing" your logs (removing 
information that identifies the specific users), be aware that it's 
difficult to do it well—replies and general context often provide 
identifying information which is hard to filter.

If you just want to publish a single conversation, be careful to get 
permission from each participant. Provide as much context as you can. 
Avoid the temptation to publish or distribute logs without permission in 
order to portray someone in a bad light. The reputation you save will 
most likely be your own.

Brian Rosmaita wrote:
> The response on the review is overwhelmingly positive (or, strictly
> speaking, unanimously non-negative).
> If anyone has an objection, could you please register it before 12:00
> UTC on Monday, January 12?
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145025/
> thanks,
> brian
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* David Stanek [dstanek at dstanek.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2015 4:43 PM
> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging
> It's also important to remember that IRC channels are typically not
> private and are likely already logged by dozens of people anyway.
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Christopher Aedo <caedo at mirantis.com
> <mailto:caedo at mirantis.com>> wrote:
>     On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com
>     <mailto:flavio at redhat.com>> wrote:
>     >  Fully agree... I don't see how enable logging should be a limitation
>     >  for freedom of thought. We've used it in Zaqar since day 0 and it's
>     >  bee of great help for all of us.
>     >
>     >  The logging does not remove the need of meetings where decisions and
>     >  more relevant/important topics are discussed.
>     Wanted to second this as well. I'm strongly in favor of logging -
>     looking through backlogs of chats on other channels has been very
>     helpful to me in the past, and it sure to help others in the future.
>     I don't think there is danger of anyone pointing to a logged IRC
>     conversation in this context as some statement of record.
>     -Christopher
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