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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Morgan Fainberg
<morgan.fainberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Gorka Eguileor <geguileo at redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 05:47:44AM +1000, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Aug 4, 2015, at 01:42, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I'm usually for abstraction layers, but they don't always pay off very
>> > > well due to catering to the lowest common denominator.
>> > >
>> > > Lets clearly define the problem space first. IFF the problem space can
>> > > be fully implemented using Tooz, then lets do that. Then the operator can
>> > > choose. If Tooz cant and wont handle the problem space, then we're trying to
>> > > fit a square peg in a round hole.
>> >
>> > +1 and specifically around tooz, it is narrow in comparison to the
>> > feature sets of some the DLMs (since it has to mostly-implement to the
>> > lowest common denominator, as abstraction layers do). Defining the space we
>> > are trying to target will let us make the informed decision on what we use.
>>
>> Again with this?
>
> Yes, I was reiterating that we should not talk about a specific choice but
> continue with the other discussion. Tooz, ZooKeeper, Consul, etc, is all
> irrelevant to the rest of the conversation we are having. The specific
> technology used can be discussed in an x-project spec, but I really would
> rather see a very opinionated choice. That can again be delayed until a
> later point.
>
>> We already what we want to get out of Tooz, where we want it and for how
>> long we'll be using it in each of those places.
>
> My response was also before the rest of the convo that occurred post
> Flavio's summary.
>
>> To answer those questions all that's needed is to read this thread and
>> the links referred on some conversations.
>
> I am fine with using a DLM. I see a significant benefit (without putting too
> fine a point on it, Keystone *will* benefit from a choice for a DLM to be
> available in OpenStack, and I like the idea). I was hoping to continue (and
> we did) identify where we had DLM-like/DLM uses in OpenStack so we knew
> where to focus.

Hey all,

This thread is a mess.

I'm going to put together facts with what projects are doing and why.
I will present my findings at the session that I will be moderating in
the cross project track of the summit [1], if accepted. Spec may
follow.

[1] - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-session-planning

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Mike Perez