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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 06:29:53PM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> I think bug days are a good idea. We've had them sporadically in the
> past, but never weekly. We stopped mostly because people stopped
> showing up.
> 
> If we think we have critical mass again, or if it makes more sense to
> run one during the RC period, then let's do it.
> 
> So... Who would show up for a bug day if we ran one?

I'm not a Nova dev, but FWIW, I can spend time doing triage and root
cause analysis of areas involving virt drivers - libvirt, QEMU, KVM and
any other related areas in Nova.

PS: Next four weeks are going to be hectic for me personally due to some
travel, but I should be more active and available after that.

--
/kashyap

> 
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange at redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 07:30:26AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Russell Bryant <rbryant at redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > On 09/15/2014 05:42 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 07:07:13AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> >> >>> Just an observation from the last week or so...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The biggest problem nova faces at the moment isn't code review latency. Our
> >> >>> biggest problem is failing to fix our bugs so that the gate is reliable.
> >> >>> The number of rechecks we've done in the last week to try and land code is
> >> >>> truly startling.
> >> >>
> >> >> I consider both problems to be pretty much equally as important. I don't
> >> >> think solving review latency or test reliabilty in isolation is enough to
> >> >> save Nova. We need to tackle both problems as a priority. I tried to avoid
> >> >> getting into my concerns about testing in my mail on review team bottlenecks
> >> >> since I think we should address the problems independantly / in parallel.
> >> >
> >> > Agreed with this.  I don't think we can afford to ignore either one of them.
> >>
> >> Yes, that was my point. I don't mind us debating how to rearrange
> >> hypervisor drivers. However, if we think that will solve all our
> >> problems we are confused.
> >>
> >> So, how do we get people to start taking bugs / gate failures more
> >> seriously?
> >
> > I think we should have formal "Bug squash wednesdays"  (or pick another
> > day). By this I mean that the core reviewers will focus their attention
> > on just reviews that are related to bug fixing. They will also try to
> > work on bugs if they have time and encourage everyone else involved in
> > Nova todo the same. We'd have a team of people in the Nova IRC channel
> > to publicise & co-ordinate bug squashing, perhaps  with a list of top
> > 20 bugs we want to attack this week. I wouldn't focus just on gate bugs
> > here since many a pretty darn hard & so would put off many people. Have
> > a mix of bugs of varying difficulties to point people to. Make this a
> > regular fortnightly or even weekly event which we publicise in advance
> > on mailing lists, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel