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On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Anne Gentle <anne at openstack.org> wrote:

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> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Joe Gordon <joe.gordon0 at gmail.com>
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>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Jay Pipes wrote:
>>> > On 10/29/2014 09:07 PM, Russell Bryant wrote:
>>> >> On 10/29/2014 06:46 PM, Rochelle Grober wrote:
>>> >>> Any chance we could use the opening to move either the Refstack
>>> >>> session or the logging session from their current joint (and
>>> >>> conflicting) time (15:40)?  QA really would be appreciated at both.
>>> >>> And I'd really like to be at both.  I'd say the Refstack one would go
>>> >>> better in the debug slot, as the API stuff is sort of related to the
>>> >>> logging.  Switching with one of the 14:50 sessions might also work.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just hoping.  I really want great participation at all of these
>>> >>> sessions.
>>> >>
>>> >> The "gate debugging" session is most likely going to be dropped at
>>> this
>>> >> point.  I don't see a big problem with moving the refstack one to that
>>> >> slot (the first time).
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone else have a strong opinion on this?
>>> >
>>> > Sounds good to me.
>>>
>>> Sounds good.
>>>
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>> With the "gate debugging" session being  dropped due to being the wrong
>> format to be productive, we now need a new session. After looking over the
>> etherpad of proposed cross project sessions I think there is one glaring
>> omission: the SDK. In the "Kilo Cycle Goals Exercise" thread [0] having a
>> real SDK was one of the top answers. Many folks had great responses that
>> clearly explained the issues end users are having [1].  As for who could
>> lead a session like this I have two ideas: Monty Taylor, who had one of the
>> most colorful explanations to why this is so critical, or Dean Troyer, one
>> of the few people actually working on this right now. I think it would be
>> embarrassing if we had no cross project session on SDKs, since there
>> appears to be a consensus that the making life easier for the end user is a
>> high priority.
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> There are many discussion sessions related to SDKs, they just aren't all
> in the cross-project slots. Plus these don't require an ATC badge
> (something users may not have).
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If we want to make sure the end user has a more uniform experience, having
the individual python-*client discussions isn't sufficient.

Also, the issue is not lack of user feedback, the issue here is more of a
lack of people implementing the feedback.


> Application Ecosystem Working Group
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> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Application_Ecosystem_Working_Group
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> Monday 2:30 (Degas)
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> Thursday 1:40 (Hyatt)
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These sessions have pretty broad scopes, and I don't think a discussion on
SDKs here is enough, since the issue isn't a lack of feedback.


> I think we can talk about the real SDK at one of these.
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> There's also:
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> Getting Started with the OpenStack Python SDK
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> Monday 4:20 (Room 242AB)
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This isn't a a design summit session, so it doesn't really make sense to do
future design work here.


> Anne
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> The current catch is, the free slot is now at 15:40, so it would compete
>> with 'How to Tackle Technical Debt in Kilo,' a session which I expect to be
>> very popular with the same people who would be interested in attending a
>> SDK session.
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>> [0]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/044766.html
>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/6cWQG9oNsr
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