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Sure, feel free to put my response in the Blueprint page.  Thanks for the quick answer.

Best Regards,
Solly Ross

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikunj Aggarwal" <nikunj.aggarwal at hp.com>
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Cc: sross at redhat.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:30:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to the user for browser incompatibility
> 
> Hi Solly,
> 
> You are right with your questions about user setting custom UA on their
> browser. And during my discussion with other Horizon community members on
> IRC, we decided that Horizon should not care about user setting custom UA on
> for their browser because it is not our job to identify that and fix. If
> user is setting custom UA for their browser which means they want that
> irrespective of the outcome.
> 
> Also we discussed about using Modernizr and also implementing graceful
> degradation but this will work for bigger features like canvas or svg but
> smaller css feature where it is breaking in older versions of IE like IE <9,
> will be a huge change and I personally think will be waste of resources and
> will make the code more complicated.
> 
> Instead Horizon guys came to an conclusion that we will identify the browser
> type and version to deal with legacy browsers like older IE or firefox or
> any other browser and for other major features we can use feature detection
> with Modernizr.
> 
> We are targeting all major browsers which are listed in this page  -
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Horizon/BrowserSupport
> 
> And I also think by going with this approach we will minimize the code
> complexity and also this small feature will greatly improve the UX
> experience for the end-users.
> 
> Thank you for the reply and your views. Also can I put the contents of your
> reply as a comment into the Blueprint page? Because I think many others will
> also have same kind of questions.
> 
>  
> Thanks & Regards,
> Nikunj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Solly Ross [mailto:sross at redhat.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:37 PM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message to
> the user for browser incompatibility
> 
> I'm not sure User Agent detection is the best way to go.
> 
> Suppose you do UA sniffing and say "show the message unless the UA is one of
> X".  Then, if there's a browser which fully supports your feature set, but
> doesn't have a known UA (or someone set a custom UA on their browser), the
> message will still show, which could be confusing to users.
> 
> On the other hand, if you do UA sniffing and say "show the message if the UA
> is one of X", then a browser that didn't support the features, but didn't
> have a matching User Agent, wouldn't show the message.
> 
> If you go with User Agent sniffing, I'd say the latter way (a blacklist)
> preferable, since it's probably easier to come up with currently unsupported
> browsers than it is to predict future browsers.
> 
> Have you identified which specific browser features are needed?  You could
> use Modernizr and then warn if the requisite feature set it not implemented.
> This way, you simply check for the feature set required.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Solly Ross
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nikunj Aggarwal" <nikunj.aggarwal at hp.com>
> > To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 4:53:42 AM
> > Subject: [openstack-dev] [horizon]Blueprint- showing a small message
> > to the user for browser incompatibility
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have submitted a blueprint which targets the issues end-users are
> > faces when they are using Horizon in the old browsers. So, this
> > blueprint targets to overcome this problem by showing a small message
> > on the Horizon login page.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I urge to all the Horizon community to take a look and share your views.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/detecting-browser
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Nikunj
> > 
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