[openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Dev] [Cinder] Open Source and community working together

Doug Hellmann doug.hellmann at dreamhost.com
Sun Mar 2 16:22:32 UTC 2014

On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:30 PM, John Griffith
<john.griffith at solidfire.com>wrote:

> Hey,
> I just wanted to send out a quick note on a topic that came up recently.
>  Unfortunately the folks that I'd like to read this most; don't participate
> on the ML typically, but I'd at least like to raise some community
> awareness.
> We all know OpenStack is growing at a rapid pace and has a lot of promise,
> so much so that there's an enormous field of vendors and OS distributions
> that are focusing a lot of effort and marketing on the project.
> Something that came up recently in the Cinder project is that one of the
> backend device vendors wasn't happy with a feature that somebody was
> working on and contributed a patch for.  Instead of providing a meaningful
> review and suggesting alternatives to the patch they set up meetings with
> other vendors leaving the active members of the community out and picked
> things apart in their own format out of the public view.  Nobody from the
> core Cinder team was involved in these discussions or meetings (at least
> that I've been made aware of).
> I don't want to go into detail about who, what, where etc at this point.
>  I instead, I want to point out that in my opinion this is no way to
> operate in an Open Source community.  Collaboration is one thing, but
> ambushing other peoples work is entirely unacceptable in my opinion.
>  OpenStack provides a plethora of ways to participate and voice your
> opinion, whether it be this mailing list, the IRC channels which are
> monitored daily and also host a published weekly meeting for most projects.
>  Of course when in doubt you're welcome to send me an email at any time
> with questions or concerns that you have about a patch.  In any case
> however the proper way to address concerns about a submitted patch is to
> provide a review for that patch.
> Everybody has a voice and the ability to participate, and the most
> effective way to do that is by thorough, timely and constructive code
> reviews.
> I'd also like to point out that while a number of companies and vendors
> have fancy taglines like "The Leaders of OpenStack", they're not.
>  OpenStack is a community effort, as of right now there is no company that
> leads or runs OpenStack.  If you have issues or concerns on the development
> side you need to take those up with the development community, not vendor
> xyz.

> Thanks,
> John

Thanks for bringing this up, John. It's important for *all* of us to
remember that we need to communicate publicly and collaborate when setting
project goals and direction.


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