<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:30 PM, John Griffith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.griffith@solidfire.com" target="_blank">john.griffith@solidfire.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Hey,</div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
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I just wanted to send out a quick note on a topic that came up recently. Unfortunately the folks that I'd like to read this most; don't participate on the ML typically, but I'd at least like to raise some community awareness.</div>
<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">We all know OpenStack is growing at a rapid pace and has a lot of promise, so much so that there's an enormous field of vendors and OS distributions that are focusing a lot of effort and marketing on the project.</div>
<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Something that came up recently in the Cinder project is that one of the backend device vendors wasn't happy with a feature that somebody was working on and contributed a patch for. Instead of providing a meaningful review and suggesting alternatives to the patch they set up meetings with other vendors leaving the active members of the community out and picked things apart in their own format out of the public view. Nobody from the core Cinder team was involved in these discussions or meetings (at least that I've been made aware of).</div>
<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I don't want to go into detail about who, what, where etc at this point. I instead, I want to point out that in my opinion this is no way to operate in an Open Source community. Collaboration is one thing, but ambushing other peoples work is entirely unacceptable in my opinion. OpenStack provides a plethora of ways to participate and voice your opinion, whether it be this mailing list, the IRC channels which are monitored daily and also host a published weekly meeting for most projects. Of course when in doubt you're welcome to send me an email at any time with questions or concerns that you have about a patch. In any case however the proper way to address concerns about a submitted patch is to provide a review for that patch.</div>
<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Everybody has a voice and the ability to participate, and the most effective way to do that is by thorough, timely and constructive code reviews.</div>
<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">I'd also like to point out that while a number of companies and vendors have fancy taglines like "The Leaders of OpenStack", they're not. OpenStack is a community effort, as of right now there is no company that leads or runs OpenStack. If you have issues or concerns on the development side you need to take those up with the development community, not vendor xyz.<span style="font-family:arial"> </span></div>
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<div style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:courier new,monospace">
John</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks for bringing this up, John. It's important for *all* of us to remember that we need to communicate publicly and collaborate when setting project goals and direction.</div>
<br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Doug</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></div><br></div></div></div></div>