[openstack-dev] use of the word certified

Eoghan Glynn eglynn at redhat.com
Mon Jun 9 22:11:37 UTC 2014

> Based on the discussion I'd like to propose these options:
> 1. Cinder-certified driver - This is an attempt to move the "certification"
> to the project level.
> 2. CI-tested driver - This is probably the most accurate, at least for what
> we're trying to achieve for Juno: Continuous Integration of Vendor-specific
> Drivers.

Hi Ramy,

Thanks for these constructive suggestions.

The second option is certainly a very direct and specific reflection of
what is actually involved in getting the Cinder project's imprimatur.

The first option is also a bit clearer, in the sense of the scope of the


> Ramy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Thomas [mailto:duncan.thomas at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:50 AM
> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] use of the word certified
> On 6 June 2014 18:29, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:
> > So there are certain words that mean certain things, most don't, some do.
> >
> > If words that mean certain things are used then some folks start using
> > the word and have expectations around the word and the OpenStack
> > Technical Committee and other OpenStack programs find themselves on
> > the hook for behaviours that they didn't agree to.
> >
> > Currently the word under discussion is "certified" and its derivatives:
> > certification, certifying, and others with root word "certificate".
> >
> > This came to my attention at the summit with a cinder summit session
> > with the one of the cerficiate words in the title. I had thought my
> > point had been made but it appears that there needs to be more
> > discussion on this. So let's discuss.
> >
> > Let's start with the definition of certify:
> > cer·ti·fy
> > verb (used with object), cer·ti·fied, cer·ti·fy·ing.
> > 1. to attest as certain; give reliable information of; confirm: He
> > certified the truth of his claim.
> So the cinder team are attesting that a set of tests have been run against a
> driver: a certified driver.
> > 3. to guarantee; endorse reliably: to certify a document with an
> > official seal.
> We (the cinder) team) are guaranteeing that the driver has been tested, in at
> least one configuration, and found to pass all of the tempest tests. This is
> a far better state than we were at 6 months ago, where many drivers didn't
> even pass a smoke test.
> > 5. to award a certificate to (a person) attesting to the completion of
> > a course of study or the passing of a qualifying examination.
> The cinder cert process is pretty much an exam.
> I think the work certification covers exactly what we are doing. Give
> cinder-core are the people on the hook for any cinder problems (including
> vendor specific ones), and the cinder core are the people who get
> bad-mouthed when there are problems (including vendor specific ones), I
> think this level of certification gives us value.
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