On 28/07/14 09:18, Robert Collins wrote: > On 28 July 2014 13:11, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote: > >> If a starting point is needed, the last discussion we had around >> 'reasonable' defaults is here: >> >> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-ops-reasonabledefaults > > Thanks Tom! > > I note that logging isn't in there, so either its not an issue (in > which case why are we putting all this overhaul effort in), or else > deployers have already tackled it in general and its not felt as a > current pain point (or perhaps we didn't get enough folk in the > room...) Logging discussion is at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-summit-ops-monitoringlogging